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1919 LWC - Can Anyone Help Explain What Is Going On?

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Happy and Safe 4th Everyone.

So I won a large collection of Lincolns at an estate sale. Here is one that was bagged with words 1919 P error.

zoom pics coming up after these. thanks


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close ups.

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lamination, also the reverse is woody
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Same here - super example.
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Very dramatic lamination peal .
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Thanks Guys.
I see people talk about pre-strike and post- strike, what's the difference and does it matter?
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If you see evidence of a lamination, but no peel, it is pre strike, if you see the peel it is post strike.
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Yep I agree it's a Lam Woody. Nice one.
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Thanks Dustin and Coinmasters. 2 More questions, I realize that the reverse has a "woodsy" look.... Certain collectors look for that, or like that look?

And 2, any pics or directions to what a lamination pre-strike would look like.

Seems like this collection I got myself into has more than 1 or 2 goodies. And I appreciate all the help everyone here has provided. I even was watching part of one of coop's videos, and will finish when next I can.
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A coin gets the woody look when the alloys are improperly mixed. Some collectors like it, others don't. Hopefully someone will post an image of a pre strike, there was one on the forum once, I just can't remember where.
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If you see evidence of a lamination, but no peel, it is pre strike, if you see the peel it is post strike.

I reckon that makes this one a pre-strike.


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The one on her neck goes well with the big one. Some Lamination Errors go all the way through the coin.
As far as the Woodies go, they are due to insufficient mixing or an improper mix, or both. They are named Woodies because they resemble wood. The more they resemble it, the more sought after they become. Some are on both sides of the coin, (all the way through the coin). That adds to value too. The direction of the lines on each side matches. I saw a penny on here a few months ago that looked like Ponderosa Pine. It was saweeeeeeeT.
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On a split off pre-strike coin, the coin will be thinner and some devices will be weak. You won't see evidence of peel as the strike is over the devices that can be formed. Here is an example:
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Note no peeling and the devices are weak because of the lack of metal on the planchet.

The examples above to me are/have peeled. So they peeled off after the strike.
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