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1919-D SLQ, Heritage Auction

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http://coins.ha.com/itm/standing-li...nks-12202013

Anyone have any idea what is happening here? I had planned to go to $820 with bp, figured I'm above MS-60 bid and ought to have a decent shot at winning it. Then I wake up and see this. I don't get it. Its not MS-64 and its not a FH. What's going on?
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The coin has a solid strike and better details in the head than most coins that are not FH. The coin is a nice example, my guess is that they are bidding on the coin like it could grade MS62 or FH.
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Somebody thinks it will (re)grade to MS63 ish?

AU58 coins should be far, far nicer than MS60/MS61, but I'd be surprised to see THAT jump...

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MS-62 would not get them there. MS-63 bid is $1,400. Most AU-58's sell just shy of MS-60 bid. A nice FH AU-58 will sell for MS-63 money. This coin is selling like it is an MS-64 already.
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07/07/2016 09:59 am
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The seller must be pretty happy; someone is apparently willing to spend at least double the coin's fair market value.
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Yeah, I know how you feel, but at least you know what coin not to buy.
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Buy the coin, not the slab. It has a nice, strong strike, tons of luster, nice toning, and not a lot of hits. Probably would CAC at this grade level.

That being said, $1,700 is a little excessive.
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This is not an MS-64 raw. I can see the wear even in the photos. Its just a nice, non-FH, nicely toned AU-58. I could see it running up to $900 - $1000 in an extreme case of collector fever, but this is just insane.
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$1997.50

good grief!
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.........and hopefully the buyer wasn't in NY CA TX or FL, or they'll be paying sales tax too
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Heritage draws everyone, from the pros to the amateurs.
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uneducated bidder, must be. or shill scheme gone wrong.
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As I recall, there was a recent thread here about a first-time Heritage buyer who did not realize that the commission, sales tax and shipping were extra! Felt sorry for him/her for sure.

But even that kind of oversight doesn't explain this, which is just a complete head-scratcher.

Speaking generally, I have always done well selling better material through Heritage.
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Auctions are a crazy thing. It is very easy to lose sight of your objective. Whether it's a coin or Elvis memorabilia
It becomes a competition with "the other guy". Robert Shipee's book describes it simply, "I just left my arm up too long".
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That seems to be a really wild price for a 1919-D LSQ in AU-58. Maybe the recent rise in silver and gold has given the coin market a shot of Meth?
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