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7 Mace And 2 Candareens

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 Posted 07/10/2016  3:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add AxelVonFersen to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,



Bought these coins at a flea market for 20 Swedish kronor, are they genuine?

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 Posted 07/10/2016  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This type of coin is one of the most commonly faked Chinese pieces. Check the weight, 26.7 grams I believe for the real deal. Is it magnetic, even if it looks to be silver it could be copper nickel alloy which is not magnetic. Good luck with your pieces.
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Hard to tell for me because the pictures are not very clear. But it looks to me like HU-PEH province on the Reverse (dragon) side in English, but it doesn't look like HU-PEH province in Chinese characters on the obverse (as it should be). These coins should be consistent with the English language on one side with the Chinese language on the other. Your sides don't seem to match (but pictures are not so good). If you could take better focused closer pictures it could be easier to answer your question.
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@axelvonfersen, first welcome to CCF! Second, I agree that these are fakes virtually 100% of the time. Better pics, results of testing with a magnet, and exact diameter, thickness, and mass would help us to confirm that. You are only into these for a couple bucks so it is most likely a cheap lesson.
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Coin on the right looks like Heilongjiang Province which we know is so unlikely, it sure doesn't belong on a coin with HU-PEH on the other side.
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The left coin could be Kwantung also mis-matched sides. Better pics would clarify. Mis-matched sides does not have to mean it is fake. It's most likely an imitation of a mint sport. Except one difference is the mint sport coin depicts Hsuan Tung emperor, but your coin depicts Kuang Hsu emperor. So my bet is it's mixed up imitation and the makers got it wrong. Certainly the coins will not be found to be good silver as an authentic coin would be.
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As a general rule: if you're finding Chinese "silver dollars" in a flea market, they're almost certainly fake. It does not matter if that market is in China, or America, or Australia, or Sweden. The fake-makers in China are churning these things out by the shipping-container-load and they are turning up all over the world, in bulk quantities.

20 kronor (about US$2) is the typical market rate for these fakes. Genuine examples would cost hundreds or thousands of kronor.
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