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1878 7/8 Tf Back From ANACS

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 Posted 07/19/2016  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tryna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think email is a good start. It is far easier to not say things you will regret in an email.
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 Posted 07/19/2016  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder if John couldn't possibly help here.
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 Posted 07/19/2016  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was looking over ANACS submission form and contract. Did you check the Box that you specifically did not want conservation?

The following is in their conservation section in the small print: "ANACS reserves the right to add additional fees for coins that may benefit from the conservation service but that are more challenging to conserve" This clause should only apply if you checked the box that you wanted conservation.

If you did not check the box that you did not want the coin conserved, they may try to hang their hat on the above clause.
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 Posted 07/19/2016  11:45 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you send an email, put a link to this thread with it. They ruined a nice looking coin.
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 Posted 07/19/2016  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Slider23
I just looked at it again.
I did not check the box to conserve, nor did I check the box not to do it.

And ANACS did not charge me a extra fee.

I ended up working a couple hours at the coin shop this morning,
so I will not communicate with ANACS until this afternoon.
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 Posted 07/19/2016  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, what a story. Tell me, what are we talking here, value-wise?
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 Posted 07/19/2016  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Wow, what a story. Tell me, what are we talking here, value-wise?


That is a difficult question. It might depend on the buyer.

I have been told a MS62 might sell for $125 to $150.

I have a local gut that really liked it, and was at $200.
I don't think I would have sold it for $200 .... I liked it
and would have kept it.

I really liked the toning.

Now I think it would be hard to sell it.

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I am in communication with ANACS. They wanted pictures.
Waiting for their response.
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 Posted 07/19/2016  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No it's still saleable GR. The toning is gone but it wasn't too special and with it being a super cd you can see the clashing better. It does have the dipped look but it's in a straight slab so it's market acceptable. If I were you I'd see if the guy still wants it for $200 then go find one you like in same grade but PCGS and buy it and pocket $50.

Not saying what happened was right just that it's a wash value wise. The toning is gone but the killer coashing is better pronounced. Wait to resolve the anacs thing first though before you offer it to that guy for $200 if you do
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07/19/2016 7:31 pm
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 Posted 07/19/2016  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I got the reply

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ANACS response-

The pictures were a huge help. Thanks for sending them. This is a beautiful coin, but when we received it, it was covered in PVC - not toning. The color that you liked was actually a corrosive substance eating away at the surface of your coin. We took the liberty of removing the coin and saving it rather than rejecting if for PVC contamination.


I hope this is helpful. Please let me know if you need anything else
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My thoughts ... I don't think it was PVC.
- The dipping did not remove all toning/PVC
If it did not remove it all and it is PVC
then why is it in a problem free holder.

-- On the phone it was agreed that before conserving
I should have been called.

---I was not charged for conserving.

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If it was PVC ... than .. they were right.

Hoping to hear some CCF opinions
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 Posted 07/19/2016  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok well acetone removes pvc but doesn't touch toning. The plot thickens
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 Posted 07/19/2016  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would Ask them for a certificate for 5 or 10 free gradings to keep my business if they don't offer reperations... A closed mouth doesn't get fed
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 Posted 07/19/2016  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can remember getting this coin. I know I gave it a verdicare
treatment. And pretty sure I gave it a acetone bath.

Would be good to hear some opinions on if this was PVC.
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 Posted 07/19/2016  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doesn't look like pvc to me. There is a slight green tinge to the color around the rim down to the hair. So they're either giving you a plausible excuse or they really did see what they thought was pcv and by removing it it made the color in the area look spotted so the best coarse of action was to also dip it. It's gotta be one of those two senarios
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 Posted 07/19/2016  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ANACS is in CYA mode, and I not buying the PVC story. My gut is that an ANACS employee or Variety contractor made a mistake on conserving the coin and their story, so they do not get in trouble is that the coin was covered in PVC. What they did to your coin is unacceptable without contacting you before dipping. I would ask them to pay the $200 because you had a buyer for the toned coin plus grading and shipping fees and they can keep the coin.
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 Posted 07/20/2016  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
THAT toning was not PVC residue! ANACS made a huge mistake!

Regardless, they had NO right, implied or granted, to conserve your coin without your permission.

If they thought it was a problem coin then it should have been slabbed as a problem coin!



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