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Diffuser From 2 Liter Bottle

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 Posted 07/19/2016  6:05 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SolomonValley to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here is a quick and easy diffuser I made from a 2 liter bottle. It sure cut down the shadows. I am going to try some proofs later tonight. This is some diffuser material I purchased online and I just double back taped it to a 2 liter bottle...?

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 Posted 07/19/2016  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GregJG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like nice even light :)
In the past I've used a flash inside a semi-transparent plastic bottle. It's neat to see the reverse
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 Posted 07/19/2016  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andywoj00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SolomonValley...I too have tried this method of diffusion as well. For me and what I like, I just didn't like how the coin looks lifeless and flat with no shadows. I like to have a bit of shadowing to hightlight the coin devices/fields. YMMV, depending on what you like to see in your coin pictures.

I've tried alot of other methods as well like milk jugs, tissue paper, cardboard smile directors, styrofoam cups, film canisters, wax paper, pseudo-axial, on-an-on it goes, and have seem to continually come back to the Jansjos, or something similar. Focused light, easily adjustable, cheap. Menards has ssome lights similar to the Jansjo's I'm debating on trying.

Lights are either diffused at the light itself (cardboard tube pictured or diffuser material taped on light head as pictured below) or having a diffuser attached to the lens body some how with the undiffused lights shining on it at different positions. Light positioning IMHO depends on the topography of the coin and where it's most reflective (or not), while trying to eliminate hot spots if possible. I have my most fights/hair pulling sessions when trying to capture lustrous copper cents.

The cent below was a quick shot with (2) Jansjo's diffused directly on the light as shown below; SK Componon-S 4/80mm lens at F8 using Ray's <$400 stand/setup . Some slight hot spots, but in hand, this is what you see; even more so depending on how the light strikes the coin. I could probably add a third light at about 6 or 7 to ward off some of the the bottom shadows. If I want a flatter look, the diffuser that attaches to the lens seems to work best for me. Again, the lights can be set close or far, dependent on your liking and the coin. It really all depends on what you want to see in your pics.


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Here's the cardboard tube that will slide over the Jansjo head with a single layer of opalux diffuser on it. Tube can be slid further on/off to dictate how much light is thrown. You can also use as many layers of opalux on this to soften as much as needed. If I could figure out how to build the rectagular diffusers Ray made years back, I'd try those as well. I can't figure out his instructions in the thread on how to assemble them

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Here's the Jansjo light head with a couple of pieces of opalux taped to the lens. This is the method I mainly use. Tape actually helps to diffuse as well. If the light is bright, I'll just add more layers. I have a bunch of these little circles cut to tape on.

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Lastly, this is the diffuser I made that attaches at the lens. The tube will fit up to an 80mm lens. The notch allows it to slide onto the lens and clear the Pentax Autobellows rail. I saw this setup at Ray's site and thought I'd give it a try. Works well depending on what you're trying to convey with the coin....flat, cartwheels luster, etc. Light positioning, number, and intensity will give you alot of different effects.

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 Posted 07/19/2016  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
like what you have done andy. I have 10 sheets of canson opalux coming tomorrow. I finely found some. from your pictures I think I have seen this stuff before. this stuff looks like the plastic engineering drawing. we used these sheet for making changes to the as built drawing. see we would get drawing from the engineers. then as we built what they drawed. if the structures did not fit. we would change the drawing as we made changes. I will know for sure tomorrow. if it is then people in canada should able. to buy this stuff at coveys stationary. it would be listed under a different name. not canson opalux. great work andy like your photos.
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 Posted 07/19/2016  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gorgeous Lincoln Cent pic Andy!
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 Posted 07/20/2016  12:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andywoj00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Ray, appreciate it. Learned alot from you and this forum.
Rocky, you're right about the opalux being a plastic like translucent item. I get mine from Blick Art Supply. I think 3 sheets ran me about $18 shipped.
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 Posted 07/20/2016  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SolomonValley to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would these work? http://www.eurostylelighting.com/eur5899.htm I thought about purchasing a couple LED lights but wasn't sure which ones to get....it really stinks living so far out in the country and being shut off from shopping more than a couple times a month... I am looking at the Jansjo lights online now...thanks everyone...btw I have 2 yards of the diffuser material that I purchased online so I am trying out different ways...I would like to get better highlights...
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 Posted 07/20/2016  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SolomonValley to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just ordered 2 of these. My lighting I have now is so big and bulky and gets in the way...thanks again for all the help... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R3LQW2...ing=UTF8&me=
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 Posted 07/21/2016  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andywoj00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Solomon. ....once you get setup with these, please post some pics of your results.
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 Posted 07/23/2016  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinphotofan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for sharing, Andy. Terrific picture!
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 Posted 07/23/2016  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SolomonValley to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Trying with a lot less light. This is 1/30 F8 ISO 200 and incidental lighting and one LED flashlight. I am getting a lot better details. Can't wait to get my new lights in...I over try at times and I think that is maybe what I have been doing with the lighting...?

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 Posted 07/23/2016  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andywoj00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Solomon....looks like you're getting really close to where you have a good balance of light and detail. Once you get these dialed in, and get the focusing on track, you should be able to gen some nice pics of what you're selling. Seems like there is a constant learning curve and new ideas...makes the hobby as interesting as it is frustrating at times.
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