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My wife and I recently inherited a few old coins and I was able to get information on all of them except this one penny. The tail side appears to be perfectly normal but the head side is very odd. Lincoln's head is too big and the year only shows a 1 and the very top part of what I'm assuming to be a 9. It's like it was zoomed in too far or something. It's also kind of caved in and smoothed so it could just be somehow damaged but again the tail side is fine. I couldn't find any information online so was hoping maybe someone on here could tell me something. Thank you!  *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. *** Edited by olde_english800
07/21/2016 3:41 pm
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Moderator
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 to CCF. Very interesting. I emailed a pro (Mike) and should here from him soon. John1  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Definetely interesting!! Can't wait to hear what Mike thinks
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Bedrock of the Community
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An image of the reverse might be helpful to him though. Thanks. I think it is a capped die in its later stages now striking the coin in a distorted fashion, through the die cap.  Note the reverse of the die cap. Edited by coop
07/21/2016 3:46 pm
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New Member
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Thank you all. I edited my original post to include a picture of the reverse side.
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Pillar of the Community
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It's a mid-stage counterbrockage. It was generated by a die cap that had a brockage of the obverse design on its reverse face.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Pillar of the Community
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Mike, does that generate more premium than a regular brockage?
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Bedrock of the Community
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The image is in relief and in the proper orientation so that should make it a counterbrockage(struck by a brockage acting as the die).
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Pillar of the Community
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The value of any brockage or counterbrockage will vary according to its stage, completeness, and clarity. I'd say this counterbrockage would bring between $50 and $75 on ebay. Error coin writer and researcher.
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07/21/2016 3:54 pm
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New Member
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Wow, very interesting indeed. Thank you all for the quick and technical responses. I figured there would be lots of error pennies out there so I'm very surprised to hear it could be worth that much!
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Rest in Peace
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Quote:I'd say this counterbrockage would bring between $50 and $75 on ebay. Mike, you just made, Quote:
olde_english800 A collector for life.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I added it to my educational files:  |
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Interesting. Does anyone have a mock-up or sketch of a die cap / brockage / counterbrockage in progress/action? It would help me visualize everything that's happening here, and I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around this whole concept.  I understand to have a die cap you have to have a struck planchet that doesn't get ejected from the press and "sticks to" the die (either hammer or anvil). If it sticks to the hammer die it will have the anvil's die design as a brockage and if it sticks to the anvil die it will have the hammer's die design as a brockage? So then the next planchet gets fed into the press, and when the dies come together, the die with the cap imparts a counterbrockage on the new planchet? This feels like one of those IQ tests where you have to imagine the faces of a deconstructed cube. |
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Sounds like from your description that you have a die cap stuck on the die and then another planchet is struck and then another one with out being ejected:   Looks like this die cap was bonded with a few others?  Obverse die cap:  Reverse die cap:  Eventually the die cap will fall off:  Struck through capped (reverse) hammer die:    But an actual sequence I don't have. |
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Wow. Those are amazing.
I will continue to read and attempt to get a better understanding. Thanks for the photos.
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That sure is amazing Coop ,thank you for all your valuable photos ! |
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