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Is There A Way To Check To See If This "Scrap" Is Authentic?

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I feel like I have doubts with it. Yes, the seller appears to be a well trusted seller of error coins and also has a slabbed "1943 webbing scrap" that's slabbed by NGC for sale. I feel like maybe these two were rejected by NGC and deemed NOT to be from a 1943 LWC?
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Hi, Drew, haven't seen you around much. Glad you're okay. I don't think there's any way to authenticate steel scrap like that and I don't think you'd have to. Once in hand you could do a little geometry to confirm the planchet size, but otherwise it's just a conversation piece, isn't it? They sold this stuff by the pound years ago just so numies could stick some on their desk. If you think it's cool, buy it and assume it's real based on sellers rep.
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Hey drew, glad to see you back. As said, you really dont have to authenticate it. It is pretty cool if genuine. If you trust the seller, then buy it.
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Also drew, now that you're back, does this mean more youtube videos?
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For the record...it sold for $6.50 with shipping included.

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There is no mint process to cut that design into a blank. Doesn't look the right thickness to be a blank. No set up ring. A bow ties is caused by incorrect cutting of blanks.
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The cutting would leave the opposite affect if it were real. No way the mint setup could cut out a hole like that.
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1943 STEEL CENT BOWTIE BLANK PLANCHET SCRAP FRAGMENT MINT ERROR COIN


In my opinion, it is NOT a error of any type, and 2nd, it can never be confirmed it was from the 1943 production of Steel cents, as the Philadelphia Mint Struck 25 Million 1944 dated 2 Francs coins for Belgium on the same Steel Planchet use in 1943..

Add this mintage to the 684,628,670 1943 Lincoln Cents, and with such a small piece of webbing, I thing it sold for more then I would value it at..



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When Germany joined the Euro, I purchased a few lots of Webbing, Blanks and blank planchets..

These I would consider collectable, the small fragment !!, I don't think so (again, my opinion only)..



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Jeez, that's quite some collection of webbings! Lord!!


And yes Dustin, the plan is to be making more videos in the upcoming weeks. I'm a year behind on my coin store videos.
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The cutting would leave the opposite affect if it were real. No way the mint setup could cut out a hole like that.

The "bowtie" coin you showed are from improper advancement of the strip during blanking. You get a piece with two opposite concave sides and two opposite convex ones. A piece like the one in the auction comes from chopping up the webbing after the blanking process.
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Looks at the image today, I can see that it is a part of a webbing. What I saw the first time (my eyes playing tricks on me) I saw a blank with a hole cut into it like that shape. Now I see it is a piece of webbing in the image. No wonder I felt it couldn't be a mint error. But I often see images that seem opposite in images at first, then it changes to what I should see. That image makes more sense today. It is a piece of webbing.
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I see it now. The background made me think it was a circle with a hole in it, but now I can see what it actually is.
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Well I thought it didn't look like a blank. So I'm glad I'm not the only one that got fooled on this one.
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