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Florin 1951 Federation Jubilee Error

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 Posted 08/06/2016  06:02 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add IndoHound to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello

I just picked up this florin with what appears as a serious die crack on the obverse.

Cannot find any reference to this type of error in Ian McConnelly's book "Australian Pre-Decimal Coin Varieties".

Does anyone out there know anything about this type of error appearing on this coin ie has anybody got a coin like mine?

I would determine that the condition of this coin is otherwise at least choice uncirculated or MS63.

Your help is much appreciated. If anyone wishes to examine the coin. It is available in Sydney. Send me a PM

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 Posted 08/06/2016  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No evidence of a die crack that I can see. The dark smudge on HM's neck may have a bit of a lam underneath, but too hard to tell.
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 Posted 08/06/2016  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echidna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Need a better pic to see whats going on.
Appears to be a planchet flaw or PMD.
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Yes, the scan is not the best. If you have the coin in your hand then you can see a "V" shaped line starting in the center of George's head down to the mid neck and then veering of to the right. I suppose it could be damage that occurred once the coin left the mint.

The other thing that is interesting about the coin is that King George's hair details are extremely well struck and distinct, far more than any of the high grade coins that I have looked at online - I am of course talking 1951 Jubilee florins.

It would seem strange to have damage - if the planchet flaw is indeed caused by post-mint mishandling in conjunction with an otherwise near near flawless piece.

There is also little to no toning on the coin.
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 Posted 08/10/2016  04:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nealeffendi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a lamination peel to me. Not uncommon then. Distinct hair might be due to fresh (new) dies.
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I was thinking possibility of planchet metal lamination as well
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It would seem strange to have damage - if the planchet flaw is indeed caused by post-mint mishandling in conjunction with an otherwise near near flawless piece.
I don't think anyone is suggesting this. Laminations & Planchet flaws are not caused by mishandling.

It's a planchet defect that results from metal impurities or internal stresses that occured during the production of the metal sheets that the coin 'blanks' are cut from.
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