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An 1885 Gold Dollar For Your Grading Consideration

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Many of the surviving gold dollars from the 1880s are in high grade. They are also quite often proof-likes because the mintages were so low. The mintages ranged from 1,636 in 1880 to 30,729 in 1889. These coins were seldom used in circulation. They were mosted used for jewelry, and the few "not so nice" examples show evidence of jewely use.

Asside from the 1889, which is by far the most common date in the 1880s, these coins are scarce. I've been working on a high grade set for the past two or three years, and have it down to two dates.

So what do you think this one grades? My grade is not the same as the NGC grade. The marks in the upper left obverse field are there, but once again my photos make them look worse than they are in person. They also look bigger because this coin has P-L surfaces which makes any mark look bigger.
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I could see this one at MS-64 as it has far less marks than your 58 $.
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I'm thinking MS64 here.
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I'm guessing NGC probably gave it a 63. Real world grade today is probably 64. Very nice and very pretty coin!
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I'm at 63 as well. Super nice coin as usual!
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I'll guess MS-64.
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MS-64.
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NGC graded this 1885 gold dollar as an MS-66. I paid MS-65 money for it because it matches up very well with the other gold dollars from the 1880s that are in my colleciton. As I said up front, the marks in the left obverse field look far worse in the this picture than they do when you view the coin in person.

As a part of "grade-flation" an lot of these coins that once were available in MS-65 holders are now in MS-66 and 67 holders. Once they hit MS-67, the prices head toward $4,000 a coin, which more than I am willing to pay.
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Thanks for the update. Repeating my comment on the '82, I realize the pics are greatly enlarged and that gold is soft, etc., but somehow this doesn't seem like a 66 or 67 coin (as nice as it is). I think the magnification factor must be misleading.
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If you use a 10x glass to grade a $20 gold, you would not grade 90% of them above MS-62.
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