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2009 LC-Strange Lines-Anyone Ever Seen These ?

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I have found 4 or 5 of these in the box I'm searching.
I'm not sure where to try and look this up cause I don't know what it is. I'm thinking maybe EDS and they disappear after the die wears in a little. I don't see any sign of them on the other coins. Any idea what caused it ? Anyone ever noticed the lines before ? Is it a variety ? Thanks for your help in solving this mystery. (Mystery to me anyways)

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 Posted 08/06/2016  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dustin6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kind of look like die polishing lines. Or they could be feeder finger marks
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Not sure, but here is one I just found. The line are pretty clear on this one.

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Are the lines raised or incuse?
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That's a tough one, but they look like there raised.

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Thats odd. Can you find them anywhere else on the coin. If you do and they are going in the same direction I would say Feeder Finger Damage to the die. I think that's what it is
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 Posted 08/06/2016  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 11997755 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The lines stop where that stain is.
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They are rolling lines from the stock material. Whey they don't disappear after being struck I still a mystery to me. I had an couple in a roll once and noticed they are going in different directions on the coins. Then it hit they are on the stock material.
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Reminds me of "guitar strings" on a Canadian cent.
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Wouldn't this be a die issue. Attached are the images of four different coins. All have the exact same markings. Seems to me that if this were a plate rolling issue that the chances of this happening would be astronomical. It seems it would have to be on the die.

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It seems to be a die issue. Maybe die polishing went a little deeper into recessed area? Thanks, Doug.
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It is definitely a die issue. I would say either die polishing or Feeder Finger Damage
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Coop, I should have made it more clear in the beginning that I found more than one.

Would this die be considered a variety ?

Thanks, everybody, for the help.
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Not a die variety. Just an event. A polishing with perhaps sandpaper or something that scratched the die. (especially if you find more than one example in the same direction on several coins) The example I found was a stock/planchet issue.
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