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Are These Toned Penny Natural Rainbow Toning?

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Hi, While I was coin roll hunting pennies today. I found a couple of colorful rainbow toning pennies. I was wondering if this is natural toning. Any info would be great! Thanks

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Hi, Hightek, and

Toning with blues and purples in it like that always makes me suspicious of heat or chemical treatment. To my eye, those don't look natural, but I'll let the experts chime in.
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Probably not; looks like careful heat treatment to me.

Do this exercise for yourself:
Heat a number of individual pennies to different levels of heating, and drop some of tehm into water to cool quickly, and some just let cool naturally.
With some compromise, you will eventually get some nicely rainbow toned coins.

THAT is why I do not add any extra value to beautifully rainbow toned coins.

Another exercise: Heat a dime to red hot and drop into water; it will be black. Try using THAT at the supermarket checkout!
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I find cents similar to that laying on the hot road.
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Agree definitely not natural, however it may have been accomplished.
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There is no such thing as "artificial" or "natural" toning. All toning is either "market acceptable" or "not market acceptable".
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So is this market acceptable or not market acceptable?
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I understand what your saying.

The terms natural toning (NT) and artificial toning (AT) seem
to be acceptable terms.

If I had to choose how to describe the difference I would go with

Normal toning - coins that have toned under normal collecting condition
Abnormal toning - coins that have toned under other than normal condition

That is my version of AT and NT

What ever we call it, the coins the OP posted are not the type of toning
most desire.
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They look suspiciously colored to me.
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OK let me ask,is the OP's coins "market acceptable" ?
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If you were a TPG, would you grade and slab them?
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MS70 Red. Slabbed by Johns' Basement-Slabs Inc.
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Abnormal toning - coins that have toned under other than normal condition

with this criteria all the Morgans that sat in the treasury vaults and acquired toning while in the vault would be AT because that is not a normal collecting condition.
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MS70 Red. Slabbed by Johns' Basement-Slabs Inc.


JBS
MS-70

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They look like they've been laundered and ran through the dryer while still being in a jeans pocket.
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