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Reference for genuine examples: Malay Peninsula, Kelantan 10 kepings AH1321 (1904), tin When this denomination was issued, the coins contained a face value that was greater than the value of the actual tin metal content it contained. As is commonly the case in such a situation, counterfeiting quickly ensued. This caused the denomination to be withdrawn from circulation, leaving this coin as a one year type. More info and historical background can be found on the Malaysian Numismatic Blog: http://dniewcollectors.blogspot.com...1321-ah.htmlThe most quickly noticeable difference can be found in the design of the outer circle on both sides. On the contemporary pieces it has sets of 4 small squares (pics below), while genuine pieces have 4-petaled rosettes (pics on NGC site: https://www.NGCcoin.com/price-guide...8-duid-99410 ). Other than that the style of the writing is more crude. This particular example is quite sharp and does not appear to have been circulated. It also has minimal white spotting, which is remarkable as tin coins from such hot and humid regions generally do not fare well.   Edited by Numismat
08/11/2016 10:00 pm
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Interesting coin and backstory. To my eyes, it almost looks like AH 1331 on the obv, but I understand that it was a one year type. Thanks for sharing!
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It looked like a 3 to me as well, very subtle difference in that it's identical to the 3 except for the small missing hump at the top
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Just by looking at the photo, it sure looks like 1331 to me. So I copied and overlayed two images to find what should be a 2 is the same fit as the 3. And the 2 should not be as wide as the 3. Not claiming the piece IS 1331, it's just a really strong match based on the posted image.
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I guess that should be added as another indicator of the counterfeit type. The genuine pieces have a more normal looking Arabic 2.
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The genuine pieces have a more normal looking Arabic 2. Yes I agree! "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Numismat Given the relatively low values for the genuine issues, how do the values of contemporary counterfeits compare? Are they on a par or is one type higher?
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That's a good question. From the one in the Malaysian auction linked by the blog in my original post, the values appear to be about the same. I would guess in a retail situation a nice example of the contemporary type might be worth more than a comparable genuine example.
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