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Rival To 1943 Bronze And 1944 Steel Lincoln

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The 1943 Bronze Lincoln and related 1944 steal Lincoln are the most famous off metal US Transitional errors.

But they are not the only coins that underwent transition at that time. The Jefferson nickels also underwent transition from nickel to silver.

I have the equivalent to the cents, a type 1 Jefferson in silver and a type 2 in nickel.

I think my Jefferson set is even rarer than the Lincolns.

What does everyone think? What about the value?



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Not a US coin collector but those are impressive. Any stats? How many of each are there known?
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I wouldn't call them a rival to the Two Cents you mentioned. It look years for the 1944 Steel to get anywhere near the 1943 copper price. The biggest desired to find one of the 1943 copper coins drove that price so high just because everyone wanted to find one. The 1944 steel was not considered anything until recently.
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Have no clue as to their pops or values, but a most interesting pair for sure.
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I wouldn't call them a rival to the Two Cents you mentioned. It look years for the 1944 Steel to get anywhere near the 1943 copper price. The biggest desired to find one of the 1943 copper coins drove that price so high just because everyone wanted to find one. The 1944 steel was not considered anything until recently.


Maybe mine can follow the 1944 steel example.
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Very cool coins!!
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Sweet coins! Would be more impressed if the 1943 was struck on nickel as well. I'm sure PCGS had to do a double take on the 1944, they probably thought it was initially a Henning nickel.


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Not a US coin collector but those are impressive. Any stats? How many of each are there known?


The 1942 in unique as far as I know. For the 1944, there is one more and I think there are a couple of more in other years like it. That's all I know, was hoping others could add info.
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I gotta ask, does the 44 have a mintmark on the reverse?
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If NO it could be a Henning Counterfeit 1944 Jefferson nickel. Could you post an image of the reverse.
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I've been wondering about the MM myself and forgot to ask last night
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If NO it could be a Henning Counterfeit 1944 Jefferson nickel. Could you post an image of the reverse.


Sorry for delay,enjoying that last weeked of summer,thanks for your interest, here is a photo of the reverse.

Its cetified PCGS secure, so its 100% legit.

I think my pair is rarer than the 1943 and 1944 Lincoln pair, what do you think?



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Just to make sure I understand correctly, the 1942 does not have a large P above the dome. Is that correct?

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Just to make sure I understand correctly, the 1942 does not have a large P above the dome. Is that correct?


That's correct, here is a photo of the rerverse of the 1942.



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Regarding the 1944-P, the deluxe edition of the Red Book (Mega Red) states, "Genuine examples of some wartime dates were struck in nickel, in error." However, no other information is provided.
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When did PCGS certify the coins? If it was more than a year ago, I'm curious why they did not write them up as rare varieties, e.g., on their CoinFacts site - http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/Hierar...+(1942-1945)

Overall, I think your question is a good one and goes to the central question, "What makes a coin valuable?" There are many folks here who can answer that question better than me, but I suspect one very important aspect is widespread awareness of a mint error variety. The more coin collectors know about these two rare mint error nickels, the more interest, and (probably) the more desire by collectors to obtain this specific variety.

Increased desire to obtain = increased value.


An article in a major numismatic magazine/journal by a respected numismatist would most likely be considered a cool article by the publishers, please the publication's readers, and, of benefit to you, increase widespread interest in, and desire for, these mint error nickels.

If you are comfortable saying, how did you obtain these two marvelous coins?
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