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i know that the 1918 Canadian fifty cent coin is suppose to be over 90% silver. now that according to the Charlton Standard Catalogue. what if it is 90 % copper. what would that coin be worth. any ideas of the value. I can not find any info anywhere. any thoughts greatly appreciated. here is the pics of that coin. I have a chance to purchase this coin. what would you pay to buy this coin.

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 Posted 09/05/2016  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that this coin is just oxidized. Not worth too much more than scrap value I would say.
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Do you have reason to believe it's actually copper besides the seller's word? It looks like a normal toned/oxidized sterling coin to me.
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and it should be sterling which is 92.5%
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it looks like toned silver to me, from being out and handled for so long.
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I've seen counterfeit GeoV half's struck in lead, I would say it is not impossible for it to be a counterfeit struck in copper.
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"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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dbm you make a good point. that could be possible. according to canadian coins catalogue. this coin should be made up of.925 of silver and .075 of copper. this coin is like it has a very thin layer of silver. the coin is supose to be 2.0 mm thick. I measured it the thickness is 1.72mm thick. I dont have a scale to weight it but it is heavy. I am going to purchase this coin. I was given a 1918 quarter today. these coins are not made out of the same metal. yet the catalogue says they should be. this 1918 fifty cent piece has way to much copper. well it looks real. I know that dont mean that it is. I know that this collection had be in that gentleman hands for a very long time. thank you all so much for your input.
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XWLCoins you could be right. it might just be a Counterfeit. I can tell you one think it would be very close to perfect copy. oh well I will have to get it checked some how. thank you
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rocky, I can't stop you from purchasing it, but unless it's fairly cheap I would recommend that you don't. It is highly unlikely that it is, in fact, an error.
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Just a plain old well worn half.
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Pacificoin I agree with you. the only differents is that this coin has a lot more copper in its make up. like some of the coins that DBM posted here. I would imagine that there is higher levels than normal of copper. there no way in 1918. that they could mix these metal. that it be perfect 93% silver and 7% copper. so all this coin is is one with a lot more copper in its make up. I just thought it might be worth a little more value. because of the higher copper level.
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as Pacific said.
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Pacificoin I agree with you. the only differents is that this coin has a lot more copper in its make up. like some of the coins that DBM posted here. I would imagine that there is higher levels than normal of copper. there no way in 1918. that they could mix these metal. that it be perfect 93% silver and 7% copper. so all this coin is is one with a lot more copper in its make up. I just thought it might be worth a little more value. because of the higher copper level.

OK, so I understand why you want to buy the coin, but what reason do you have to believe the composition is wrong? In 1918 they did have the ability to correctly mix the metals fairly precisely, and it sounds like the main reason you have is the coin's color, which doesn't tell you much about composition. I see that the reverse does look a bit like the color of old copper, but there are plenty of explanations, including (as others here have suggested) toning and the possibility of a counterfeit.
If you want to buy it, by all means do that, but I really think this is a crapshoot.
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There is the remote possibility of improperly mixed alloy.
You would need to get it XRF tested to convince anyone of that.
As Numisma said it's a crapshoot.
The odds are against you but it's your money.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
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I think I would rather draw to 20 at a Black Jack Table in a major casino, than buy this obviously normal well worn half.
The chances of this XRF ing at any thing other than sterling silver is about nil. It is your money, and it sounds like you have already talked your self in to it. Good Luck!
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