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A little introduction: I'm Moe and I usually collect just US coins. A priest friend of mine was cleaning out their Priest House before it was torn down to build a new one and saw boxes of, what turned out to be, coins from a 30 year deceased priest, Father Q's, collection. My buddy knew I liked and collected coins and asked if I would look at the collection. To say the collection is vast is an understatement. I have received 12 loose-leaf binders with up to 220 coins in each binder, so far. Many are modern (1944-1978) from, serious ALL around the world. (There, apparently, are at least 2 other large boxes of this collection I haven't seen yet). And then there are some OLD coins. I'll post some of the ancient ones on this Forum. I would like to request any information you may have concerning composition, history of the figures depicted, denomination, rarity, etc. Thank you Ancient lovers!!  (And yes, I know, my camera is not the best...)                                    |
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I question the authenticity of many of these pieces, especially that dekadrachm. If real, that coin alone is worth $100,000 - $150,000. But, WOW!  Edited by TypeCoin971793
09/12/2016 3:33 pm
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I think that you have a mix of cheap tourist forgeries and some real coins
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I think that you have a mix of cheap tourist forgeries and some real coins. I guess that's possible. There are some coins in the back of this latest book that are labeled Modern Reproductions. |
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Hi Moe, I agree with the others there are some genuine coins and some fakes. From your pictures the coin seem to be gold if that's the case than most have been plated. From what I can tell:
#1 Looks plated
#2 Should be silver
#3 & 4 should be silver otherwise they look OK
#5 is good
#6 should be silver, might be OK but need better picture.
#7 should be bronze, looks plated.
#8 should be silver, not sure of this one.
#9 Looks to be a fouree.
#10 I'd say a copy
#11 Very doubtful it's real, if it is it's in the $100K range.
#12 Looks OK
#13 Don't really know anything about this type.
#14 & 15 doubtful
#16 Looks cast
#17 Should be silver, I see what looks like some gold plate.
#18 Looks OK.
Hopefully others will have a better review of them.
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Moe,  Thanks for having my head spin.  |
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 This is really interesting. It would be a shame if they were mostly reproductions. |
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Echizento, thank you again for your insight.
FYI for all: The coins mostly appear yellow-ish due to my poor lighting and lousy camera!!
The coins listed as "should appear silver" usually do in real life.
And another FYI: one of the reasons I posted here was my complete lack of experience with Ancients and your depth of knowledge of the subject.
I thank you all for looking and I value every opinion.
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09/12/2016 6:25 pm
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Moe I'm sure others will come along and comment I would wait to see what they have to say.
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@moe, I've very much enjoyed the other thread that you have been keeping on this collection.
I will be bummed to hear if some of these coins end up being reproductions, but I trust the guys here as they really know their stuff. Seeing the edge of the coins might help us on some of the questionable coins as we would be looking for parting lines or evidence of removed parting lines.
I guess the only pushback that I would give to @athalbert's "cheap tourist forgery" comment is that it seems like this collection was put together prior to the 1980s. Not that reproductions didn't exist before then, but I feel like the ability for counterfeiters to produce more convincing craft has increased substantially over the past 30-40 years.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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My thoughts on authenticity:
1. Attic Didrachm: I see silver flaking off, especially on the reverse. That either means it is an ancient fouree or a modern forgery.
2. Athens Tetradrachm: Maybe genuine? I am not familiar enough with the fabric of this type to know for sure. My gut says fake, though.
3. Cappadocia: probably genuine.
4. Aradus Tetradrachm: Surfaces don't look right, but otherwise Looks okay.
5. Bithynia: my gut says cast, but it could be corroded and harshly cleaned.
6. Rhodes: looks genuine. I am looking into buying this type.
7. Ptolemy I Tetradrachm: looks genuine.
8. Alexander Tetradrachm: the style looks right, but there seems to be bronze showing on the reverse, notably in front of Zeus' head and below his seat. If this is the case, then this is a forgery. If not, I'd say it is genuine.
9. Corinth Stater: looks like a fouree.
10. Tarentum Didrachm: Don't know enough about the fabric to say.
11. Syracuse Dekadrachm: odds are that it is a forgery (look on the edge for an 'R'). The hair style does not seem intricate enough for a Greek issue of this denomination.
12. Herod: same as #5
13. Billon Stater: probably genuine.
14. Aradus Drachm: same as #10
15. Severus Alexander: same as #5
16. Epirote Drachm: looks genuine
17. Sicily Heiron: same as #5
Edited by TypeCoin971793
09/13/2016 10:15 pm
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