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Canada
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There are a lot of sellers on ebay claiming they have a high 9 for sale but it looks like a medium high 9 if there is any category for it.Item no 311524687034. |
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New Zealand
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Most positively not a high 9--- just a standard coin
Cheers Don
Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut.
"Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more
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Canada
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/agree fourmack
not even a "medium", just a plain ole nine
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United States
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Anyone on this forum have images depicting the 3 types of 1929 small cents? Confused. In advance, T.Y.
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United States
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Yes, I've heard rumors of a "medium-high" 9 for years, but have yet to see convincing photographic proof of one. It would be very helpful to see it! A photo taken with symmetrical lighting (like a ring light) would be best. If anyone can provide one, I could post overlays that would show the differences.
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10/22/2016 8:43 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
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This is what I had presented on Canadian Copper Coins forum many years ago. After examining over 100x 1929 coins (lows, mids,and highs), I came to the conclusion that for the 9 to be considered a high 9, the 9 will have a slight anti-clockwise rotation.  Edited by numidan
10/24/2016 9:02 pm
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 Canada
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Frankly, I think it is pointless when lines are drawn all over the coins... it detracts from whole exercise. Same as the 1932 Far 2 - Zonad's comment about spacing is so much easier than drawing lines on coin images...
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 Canada
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Numidan I see the difference especially in your last scan. Even without the lines sit back and eyeball the last 9 in your third picture and you can see its what I call a true high 9.Its the same mistake with the 1896 large cent far 6 as they are selling a wide 6 for a far one on ebay. Edited by doctorman1941
10/25/2016 12:23 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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"Its the same mistake with the 1896 large cent far 6"
There are 3 easily identifiable 1896 Far 6 types.
1. 6 o'clock die crack on reverse
2. Die crack in DEI
3. Die cracks in V Victoria and C Canada
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10/25/2016 12:34 am
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 Canada
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For the 1896, there are almost as many different "far 6" types as there were working dies. The last digit was handpunched in, so you have every possible different spacing, vertical alignment, and canting between the 9 and the 6. It's the reason why ICCS quit certifying any of them, because how far is the "far 6"? There are at least 8 different 1896 reverses where the spacing between the 9 & 6 is wider than the space between the 8 & 9. Why this "variety" hasn't been removed from trends is beyond me.
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Canada
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You know Bill...i went back and forth on the 1896 over the years. But I kind of like it now...
it has staying power because it does kind of "jump out at you"....
I think I've said it in a different post, but in the 2011 Charlton Large cent section you did include 3 varieties of 1896 far 6, but simply didn't point out the markers...
i ran an experiment on my 30 or so Far 6s last year, and sure enough...they grouped beautifully into those 3 types that you guys published in the 2011 Charlton...
I think over time, those 3 types will endure, and as we have DP9 No.1-5, I think we will have Far 6 No.1-3
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Canada
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I think that we only included 2 1896's in the 2011 Charlton. Our purpose and marching orders for the variety section was to show the "types" of varieties that could be out there for each date. Normally, we chose the most impressive (offsets, doublings, etc) examples that we knew about. We never intended (nor did we have room for) all the different anomalies that were available for any date.
Personally, I separate my 1896's by the vertical position of the 6(hi,lo) and the cant (CW or CCW)of the digit. I don't place them by the gap which are kinda far, far, very far, very very far, etc.
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United States
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Numidan, would you please PM me? And, hey, while I'm here: don't forget the 1859s! We've got high. We've got low. We've got close. We've got far. It's all there. We've even got right side up over upside down. Match that you wimpy 1896s! (I'm still doing a catalog on the 1896s, though.)
Jim
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Ha ha, doctor. You and I both know that the two of us have been collecting '59's longer than some of the members have been out of diapers. I like the '96's(& 81's) because of the rotations, but the '59's are really close to my heart.
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Valued Member
United States
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That's for sure, Bill. Actually, 1881H is my second favorite date after the 1859s.
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Canada
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Frankly, I think it is pointless when lines are drawn all over the coins... it detracts from whole exercise. Hi SPP, I have not invented anything new, Jack Griffin wrote in his monograph that he used reference lines (a grid system) for his research on large cents. I did the same with the 1929 to figure out the different spacing for the 9. It helped me figure out that there were the high, the mid, low, and lets not forget the 9/9. I presented the pictures this way to limit the replies indicating that the lighting is not the same, or the magnification is different, or pictures are not aligned, or etc... I never mentioned that these reference lines should be the ones used to identify the type of 9's! Quote:
Numidan, would you please PM me? Hi JHax, PM sent. Edited by numidan
10/25/2016 12:24 pm
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