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I've recently purchased ancient uncleaned Roman coins. My girlfriend and I have been practicing cleaning the coins. I am somewhat new to this field, and would appreciate any input. Would you consider this coin worthy of authentication from NGC? Is it too common? How would you rate the condition of this coin? Should we clean this coin further, or is it good the way it currently is? Thank you!   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I only recommend sending in coins that A) are worth at least a couple hundred dollars, or B) have major price differences from one grade to the next. What you have here is a late Roman bronze piece, probably only worth a couple of dollars. I'm guessing Constantius II, but I don't know too much about Roman coins. Also, what do you mean by 'cleaning'? Unless you're talking about any of a few harmless methods like acetone or removing crud with a toothpick or thorn, it's easy to cause permanent damage. I'm not sure if you know this, but removing patina from ancient coins is very harmful.  to CCF! Our members can give more information and help you learn more about your coins. Edited by Numisma
10/09/2016 8:41 pm
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 United States
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@tjkehl, first welcome to CCF. Second, I wouldn't do any more cleaning on this guy. In fact, if those are areas of new wear (e.g. on the cheek on the obv and faces of the guards on the rev), then I'm afraid that you may have been a bit over-zealous with your cleaning.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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United States
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to the community. There is no need to have it authenticated, it is a common coin of Constantius II from the Siscia mint. It would cost you more to have it authenticated that what it's worth. You shouldn't attempt to clean it coin any more it's good as it is. I recommend that you check out the sticky section on Books, Downloads, and websites there you will find loads of information on how to ID coins, alone with free material that you can download as references guides. |
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Canada
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NGC does not guarantee the authenticity of ancient coins. It says so right on their website.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Constantine I, not II. Legend reads -TI NVSMAXAVG. Constantine I reformed this design (follis?) while he was still alive. No other emperor would have two standards and AVG in the title. (Plus, Constantine the Great is the only one of his family to use the "MAX" title).
At any rate, I concur. This is a $5 coin, max. Almost zero chance that it would be counterfeit, and you would probably get a low grade back, on account of half of the legend being gone.
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United States
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Oops, yes Constantine I. My mistake.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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NGC does not guarantee the authenticity of ancient coins. It says so right on their website. Odd then when they reject grading coins as "not authentic". NGC seems to want to authenticate, but then don't want to be held accountable for slabbing fakes. |
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United States
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tjkehl .....I'm new here aswell,but believe me you learn quick as the help is A+++++ Very common coin there...But it's a very nice coin too!  I wouldn't try to clean it anymore , but maybe a long soak in olive oil will darken it slightly and ( for me ) might enhance the look of the coin abit if that's what you're after? You have to remember that the look of a coin is a very....personnel view....and what you may like the look of.. may not have the same eye appeal to someone else and vise versa. Having said that there is a point where over cleaning can be detrimental to the coin and therefore the value of the coin.I would go with a long soak... drop it in a 2x2 attribute it and enjoy a lovely bit of history... Just my opininion...Saludos Paul  |
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Canada
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"NGC Ancients is committed to grading only genuine coins, but it does not guarantee authenticity, genuineness or attribution, nor is any guarantee of these aspects implied. NGC Ancients will only holder coins it considers genuine at the time of submission, but it cannot guarantee the authenticity, genuineness, type, attribution or date of any coin it holders. Unlike modern coins, which often benefit from well-documented, scientific parameters for the verification of authenticity, there rarely is conclusive data for ancient coins, and generally there is no surviving documentation to verify production characteristics." https://www.NGCcoin.com/specialty-s...arantee.aspx |
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