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United States
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I recently purchased this Trade dollar and I'm looking for some help to determine if it is legit or not. Thank you!   |
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Valued Member
Canada
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I know nothing about it. However that is a sharp looking coin for its age. Is it magnetic?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5825 Posts |
Suspiciously pristine.
IMO it's worth sending to to NGC or PCGS.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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First off, welcome. Quote:
Suspiciously pristine. My first impression, also. The unstated sourcing of your purchase may speak to how suspicious overall you ought to be. The first thing that needs to be done is to obtain an accurate weight, and if that seems correct, then a specfic gravity. Colligo ergo sum
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It's suspiciously pristine because it is not. It is an AU coin that has been whizzed to give the surfaces simulated luster of that of an MS coin. However, the luster always looks "off" and watery, unlike that of an unaltered coin. It is worth no more than $100-150 because the surfaces have been severely damaged.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Agree with type. AU details. Wear on eagle neck, Liberty hair, breast, Also looks like obverse rim damage near 3 o'clock.
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New Member
 United States
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Thank you all very much for your input. I greatly appreciate it
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't like it. I don't think that it is genuine. Here is a picture of the real thing. You have got to do a lot of whizzing and polishing to take off that much detail. Here is a photo of a genuine piece that is grded MS-63.   Edited by billjones
10/21/2016 10:00 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree with others that the coin is at best AU details. The concern that I have about the coin's authenticity is the lower two blocks on the bench have pits. On some high end Trade dollar counterfeits the bench pit marks are use to identify the fake. If possible, you may want to consider returning the coin for a refund and buying one in a NGC or PCGS holder. Edited by Slider23
10/21/2016 10:47 am
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United States
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You have got to do a lot of whizzing and polishing to take off that much detail. If you start with an AU coin, wouldn't the wear have already taken away the detail? |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Liberty's head, right bust facing and foot all look wrong compared to detail elsewhere. I believe it to be counterfeit as well. In any event -  to the CCF! Edited by Coinfrog
10/21/2016 4:53 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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This being a Trade dollar .. and details of the coin having a odd look. Is it whizzed ... good chance .. But could a fake coin get whizzed as much as a AU authentic coin? There are areas of the coin that are flat .. wear? For example the eagle on the reverse has great details, but the area near the start of the motto is weak. The foot really bothers me, on the obverse. When things don't look right on a Trade dollar, further checking is required. I would want magnet test, weight and silver tested .. before sending it into a TPG. Would I buy this coin for a lot of money .. no. I would not buy it for good deal money. There is to much of a chance of it being fake. |
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It very well may be real but as others have pointed out only if it has been whizzed and whizzed substantially. The coin's surface has an unusual look to it.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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100% fake. Note the type 1 ribbons, missing lines in foot, but the giveaway is the reverse with short leaf but long arrowhead.
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100% fake. Note the type 1 ribbons, missing lines in foot, but the giveaway is the reverse with short leaf but long arrowhead. Maybe we should have a review. The diagnostics you pointed out are perfectly fine. The design changed in 1876, so Type 1 devices on an 1875 are completely reasonable.   As for the missing lines in the foot, see this PCGS-certified MS-63 1874 (Type I) Trade dollar. No lines whatsoever.  Still going with 100% fake? Edited by TypeCoin971793
10/22/2016 12:11 am
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