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Now.... where are my scissors...  "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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That would be interesting!
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So, the XRF revealed the truth did it.................lol.
Perhaps on their way to the junk bin or maybe the other road on to PCGS lol.
Nothing like sitting on the edge of the seat..............
Drum roll please..............
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"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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If I owned those coins I don't think I wold let them near SPP's XRF. Something tells me the owner will have a hard time selling them "as labeled" in good conscience afterwards.......
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No fears - both were indeed brass. They were previously tested before ICCS certified, but the owner was nice enough to let me cut them out and test on my machine for sake of data consistency with other examples I have tested...
Now, you have to be patient for a forthcoming article on the 1859 brass cent.
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And here I sent over 500 1859's to SPP for XRF and to include the findings for an article a few years ago on the 1859 brass cent. Needless to say not a single one turned up brass, but there definitely were some different alloys/mixtures across test population. Most, though, were pretty closely packed together , near where the published composition should be.
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What does a G3 brass fetch if you don't mind a person asking?
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Feel free to call me Will.
Edited by thedollarman
10/21/2016 11:18 pm
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Times have changed. Several years ago, I bought my F-15 for about the AG-3 price.
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Anyone who is good with Haxby numbers want to take a shot at identifying these two coins? thedollarman has provided the links to good photos.
I have photos of about a dozen other 1859 brass coins, perhaps someone can help me with those in terms of which dies struck those coins (like Doug, Gene or Randy)? Send me a PM...
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Every one that I've seen has a very narrow vine break at leaf 7 before the hub broke off more. This makes it very early in the coinage year and striking cycle .. maybe simultaneously with the 1858's and 9/8's. Do your "dozen or so" brass cent photos hold up with very narrow gaps, SPP?
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The AG-3 looks to be a larger gap (middle stage perhaps)... I just want to see if different dies struck those coins...
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Well, I'm sure that different dies DID strike the coins. It was whatever was in the planchet chute/bin that fed the presses, regardless what working dies were in place. Improper mix or settling of the alloy in the crucibles/pots before being poured into the ingots was where the brass came from. Once the ingots were flattened into sheets and then planchets cut from them resulted into portions of the sheets being bronze and small sections being brass because the ingots weren't consistent all the way through.
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Once the ingots were flattened into sheets and then planchets cut from them resulted into portions of the sheets being bronze and small sections being brass because the ingots weren't consistent all the way through. By that logic, should there not be some partial brass coins, or a transition from bronze to brass? "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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