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Here's another ebay coin I bid on but did not win. It's an 1876 Seated Liberty dime. It looks very well-struck with raised rims and clean fields which got me wondering if it might possibly be a proof. The toning is interesting, but I couldn't be sure if it is original or if the coin has been cleaned. What do folks think? It sold for $113. These are, of course, the seller's photos and they are not the best.   Paul Bulgerin
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looks to good to be true>>>
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As somemeone who owns quite a lot of Seated Liberty dimes and Seated Liberty half dimes, this coin has probably been cleaned at one time or another. That being said, there are many decent versions of 1870's dimes available. If you go before that period, the amount of high quality looking versions decreases rapidly. That is simply because the mintage of the coin was much much lower. Based on the pictures, would I have paid $113 for this coin? The answer is no. Why? Because it is one of the highest mintage years of this coin. Not a chance. I would only buy a proof from that year. |
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Looks proof to me. Not to say that it couldn't also be cleaned.
Edited by ErrorCoins222
10/31/2016 11:07 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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The wire rims and hammered strike are fairly good indicators that it is a proof strike. However, the surfaces leave something to be desired and I would be afraid that the photos are masking serious impairments  |
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I think it is more likely to be a proof than not.
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It could be a proof or proof like. That is the risk you take on an ungraded proof looking coin. If it turns out to be proof like with that kind of mintage, the coin was not worth it.
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No expert but this is almost certainly a proof strike. Fortin's 1-A (F-101 R4 - 1150 minted), type 1 rev, small knob 6, DR is 0b1 (left foot of 1 in between denticles 1-0 going CW using Fortin's DR), die lines under chin / weak IM in DIME both appear to be present in these photos, and the die chip seems to be visible in the bottom of the 8. Does not have the reverse doubling or upward slanted date associated with F-103.
Photos make grading difficult/impossible, coin looks "off" a bit like cleaning/retoning and I think this coin may have been "worked on." I'd be wondering why it wasn't in a slab -- $350-$650 in lower non-cameo Proof grades, $800+ when you start getting into 64 and better. I'd want to see this one in-hand before I put any money on it.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Edited by paralyse
11/01/2016 04:25 am
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My gut said proof. The rims are a dead giveaway.
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The date measurement that Paralyse points out is the best starting diagnostic. The die lines under the chin are quite visible as is the weak reverse lettering. Other than that, the pics are not appealing enough to take a chance unless there is an easy return process. And for the record, its Liberty Seated dime, not the other way around. |
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I won this coin yesterday, my thoughts were it was a proof. if not a very high grade business strike. I will post pics when I have it in hand. I checked out Gerry Fortin's site on Liberty Seated dime varieties prior to bidding and came to the same conclusion as paralyse did. I worked the sellers photo's on my home computer and decided to take a shot. Besides my gamble on it being proof, the coin was sold from a Pawn outfit in Texas, so I took the risk of them not knowing what they had. their sales are usually lower grade coins and this coin was listed in the "other" section, not in the Liberty Seated dime category. we shall see....  I was going to post it here when I got it but Paul Bulgerin beat me to it.  No risk...No reward. Edited by RK55
11/01/2016 09:20 am
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RK, its a good roll of the dice especially if you can return it if not 100% satisfied. If it turns out to be just bad pics and solid, original proof than you've got a heckuva deal and nice conversation piece added to your collection. Good luck and post pics!
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RK, I wouldve jumped on this if I wouldve seen it. But, I didn't see it. Looks like a sure proof to me.Good luck and make sure to post it when you get it
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Agree proof, likely dipped at one point, great find.
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I'm glad the coin was won by a CCF member.
I look forward to seeing the photos and then most likely kicking myself in the rear for not bidding more!
Paul Bulgerin
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Thanks guys, I actually left work early since I would have been on the drive home when it ended at 6:30 PM eastern time.
I probably won't return it unless it is harshly cleaned. I take gambles, sometimes I win sometimes I don't. But....I have a nice 1916 Std quarter no date, 1881-S MS66 Cert Morgan and a few other scores to go along with my misses.
I don't blindly bid, I research if time permits and also use the knowledge gained from being a member of this site and learning all the time. I just came across it as the OP did while browsing and it stood out to me despite the lousy seller photo's.
I will post some better pics when I receive the coin.
Edit..just saw your post Paul, Thanks!
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11/01/2016 5:29 pm
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