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1884_o Morgan Please Grade Me

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This Morgan has been graded by the numismatic certification institute. of Heritage building Dallas Texas. Its not slabbed but in a mylar 2x2 which has been stapled to a card with the grade and picture of the coin.

Care to assign a grade and or possibly an attribution if any.
I will post a picture of the card once grade opinions have been given.
Thank you for your time

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There seems to be alot of chatter on this coin, in the fields and many parts of the design. Liberty's face is not real bad, but that hit above the eye is very noticeable. With that in mind I would grade this Morgan MS-61 . It looks like it has great luster from the pics , nice looking coin ! As far as attribution, nothing screams at me, but I have a hard enough time figuring them out when I have the coin in-hand !
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Hello Richard,
The hair along Liberty's face is flat, almost appearing worn. It could be strike weakness, but this area has a bright shine to it that makes me suspect some kind of cleaning. However, the luster in the fields looks too good for a coin that has been aggressively cleaned. The eagle's breast has soft detail which is common for uncirculated New Orleans Morgans. The heavy chatter and the scar above Liberty's eye are grade-limiting.

I can't make up my mind whether we're looking at a cleaned coin. It could be MS-61 or maybe MS-62 at best, but I'd lean towards "MS details, cleaned" with a net grade of MS-60.

PS: I'll bet you can find a much nicer example of an 1884-O!
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Thanks Jaobler and Infiniteinterest.
Jaobler I have a much nicer example in my Dansco. I won this at an Auction for not a lot just under 10% of the price marked on the grading card.
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The coin looks original to me ,,not cleaned ,, for an O mint Morgan its actually fairly well struck ,,just to be able to see breast feathers is a plus .

the ding on the obverse and the rim dings on the reverse hold it back a bit ,MS-62 is my guess . but I have seen worse looking MS-63's in top TPG slabs .
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The hair along Liberty's face is flat, almost appearing worn. It could be strike weakness, but this area has a bright shine to it that makes me suspect some kind of cleaning. However, the luster in the fields looks too good for a coin that has been aggressively cleaned. The eagle's breast has soft detail which is common for uncirculated New Orleans Morgans. The heavy chatter and the scar above Liberty's eye are grade-limiting.

I can't make up my mind whether we're looking at a cleaned coin. It could be MS-61 or maybe MS-62 at best, but I'd lean towards "MS details, cleaned" with a net grade of MS-60.

PS: I'll bet you can find a much nicer example of an 1884-O!



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NoHope its a nice O mint!
I seen an 1884-O with about the same chatter on the obverse and it was a PCGS MS-63.
I say MS-63
*but I am not a grader for a TPG there the ones that count.
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I'm thinking 63 with a heck of a headache from that laceration on the forehead.

The only "important" VAMs from this issue are O/O RPM's; get a loupe on the mintmark if you can and check for repunches possibly ranging from a single line inside to something pretty obvious inside and out.
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The MS 64 Pl grade surprised me, I would have guessed a MS 62 or 63.
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I was guessing 64! -PP
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