A Couple Of Strange Coins.. Looking For Help Id'ing

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BlackRabbitCoins Valued Member United States 113 Posts	Posted 11/13/2016 10:16 pm Hello all, I bought a small lot of world coins from a local dealer the other day, He pulled out most of the Silver and I bought the rest. just finished up going through them and found a couple I'm not sure about. The first one is supposed to be a 1873 Bolivia 50 Centavos Coin, It's also supposed to be .900 Silver and Weigh 12.5g. This one is Copper and Weighs 10.3g. I'm assuming it's a fake but wanted to get other opinions on it. Here's a Pic.. Here's the next one. Not sure if this is a coin or token but most of the collection was from South America. The reverse is blank, and it appears to be Brass. I couldn't find it online or in any of my books. anyone have any ideas? Sorry about the lousy pics... Battery was dead in the camera and I had to use my phone. Thanks for Looking!! Report this Post to the Staff

cara Valued Member Uruguay 217 Posts	Posted 11/13/2016 11:15 pm About the first coin, yes it is a cast copy but in my opinion due to the average circulated condition and the metal base it must be a contemporary counterfeit. Probably silver plated when it circulated. Report this Post to the Staff
alganbagerap Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2490 Posts	Posted 11/14/2016 02:56 am SEcond looks to be a hacienda token from Venezuela: https://coins.ha.com/itm/venezuela/...3014-26160.s A.S. Sena 1/2 Real ND uniface brass, 15mm. Bermudez A-60, Stohr F-A23. Should be listed in Rulau if anyoine has a copy Report this Post to the Staff
Albert Pillar of the Community United States 1913 Posts	Posted 11/14/2016 10:05 am Yes it's Rulau VEN 105 also Eklund 1219, value $15 TO $25. I collect contemporary counterfeits, I wish that Bolivia was something I found. Report this Post to the Staff
realeswatcher Pillar of the Community United States 1962 Posts	Posted 11/14/2016 5:08 pm Yup, definitely a contemporary counterfeit. Fairly common with Bolivian coinage at least until the 1850's (most often the 4 Soles denomination, of which this 50 cent. piece would be the successor)... I don't really go past the Soles coinage much, but I believe I've seen a few other 50 cent. and/or 1 Boliviano contemp ctfeits before. Interesting find. Report this Post to the Staff
BlackRabbitCoins Valued Member United States 113 Posts	Posted 11/15/2016 10:46 am Thanks for all the info!! This place is the best! Report this Post to the Staff
colonialjohn Pillar of the Community United States 1757 Posts	Posted 11/15/2016 4:22 pm Other than Kleebergs don't really bother with post 1800 material but this one appears interesting - with the shades of green maybe even debased silver unless the pic is OFF. I agree - interesting ... why am I thinking Belleville, NJ? although a late issue (1873) for this counterfeiting center ...? JPL Report this Post to the Staff
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