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1852 Braided Hair Large Cent For Grading Vs. NGC Older Slab

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This 1852 Braided Hair Large Cent is in an old NGC holder. Variety is Newcomb 3 (N-3). Reverse die has 140 degree c/w rotation. Rich brown luster with hints of red; only a couple of minor nicks on the obverse and a tiny carbon spot. What grade do you think NGC gave this coin years ago?

I need to retake the pictures, I think, but I'm tired, I'll do that tomorrow. I don't think these came out as well as I would have liked.

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Thanks for looking.
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AU-53
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MS 63
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Au 55 - ms 61.
Very nice!
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MS-61
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photos are a bit blurry but I do not see a lick of wear or rub anywhere on the coin. I am at MS61 as well. I think the weaker strike on the stars held it back from a higher MS designation.
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Looks potentially MS. I won't assign a grade to such blurry photos.
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In the first pics I thought I saw rub on the tip of the crown, top of hair and ear curl. However, the coin looks sharper in the newer pic. I go to 58. Admittedly no expert here. I only have these coins in lower to mid grades, so I am just guessing.
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Tough with those photos since the detail elements that determine rub, or not, are not sharp enough for me to really give an honest opinion.

For what I can see, I'd say it just missed MS, so AU-58.
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I think its MS. I'm thinking MS61 also
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Im At a slider. AU-58 to MS-62
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I plan on retaking a couple of pictures tonight.

My EAC grade was 60 sharpness net 55 due to the small nicks and the lone carbon spot. This is an MDS coin with a slightly misaligned obverse die strike (weaker to the northwest, stronger to the southeast) and I did also notice a slight bit of cabinet rub which factored into my net grade.
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AU-55, possibly 58.
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It looks like it could be MS.

MS-62?
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