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So I found another one that I would never buy. YES- I understand it's rare but am I wrong in my belief that eye-appeal ultimately affects the price? http://www.ebay.com/itm/381850279585/Edited by MikeF
11/20/2016 01:00 am
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I think I see what you mean. Is it that it just isn't clean looking?
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I think I see what you mean. Is it that it just isn't clean looking? That's part of it. I understand that coins tarnish with age. It's the dirty, brown, crusty look that I don't find appealing. Almost making the coin look as if it's made from 100% copper. Here's another example: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1840-1-Libe...322272256760 |
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Eye appeal absolutely has an effect on the price of a coin. However, what constitutes eye appeal is not universal. For example, I think the eye appeal of the coin you linked to in your first post above is pretty nice. Personally, I prefer it over one that is bright white and appears to have been dipped. Especially on a circulated coin. The coin in your second link, now that one I agree with you that the eye appeal is not good. The coloring on that coin looks odd and I would have no interest in it for that reason.
My point in this post is that eye appeal is one of those things that is certainly in the eye of the beholder.
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What the what is wrong with it? That's a perfectly beautiful coin! The only thing that's wrong with that baby is the ANACS slab it's in! If you were trying to fill out a year set (as I am with 1859) the only thing there would be to make it unappealing is the sticker price!  Edited by Biedercoins
11/20/2016 04:17 am
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The dark, improperly-lit photos hide any luster this coin has. It will look 500% better in-hand. Don't be too quick to call a coin ugly as the lighting may be affecting something.
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So, I'm assuming you would prefer a bright white coin like this:  Over a toned coin like these:   I'm sorry, but that is the BEST way to land yourself with a cleaned and damaged coin inadvertently. Even almost all of the white coins in problem-free slabs have been cleaned. I would recommend you to reconsider your tastes. |
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That's the reality of toning, eventually they turn grey and get even darker. At least that's what coin dealers
I've spoke with at various shows have told me.
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Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Even almost all of the white coins in problem-free slabs have been cleaned. If this is true doesn't that imply the grading agencies are corrupt? |
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If this is true doesn't that imply the grading agencies are corrupt?
It's called "market grading". I don't agree with it But there it is  |
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In my opinion...
Eye does affect the price, but it should not drive the price more than
problem free higher grade coins.
Grade should be the biggest driver on the price. You have to think
about selling the coin when your buying. When .. or if you go to sell
it might be hard to say ... it is very nice looking, so the coin should bring
more than the grade price.
Just imagine what a dealer will say if you try to sell it in the future.
I know I am not good at explaining myself ....
Bottom line is .... do not over pay for coins.
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@paralyse Has that capped bust been cleaned? Also what grade did it come in at?
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If this is true doesn't that imply the grading agencies are corrupt? Not necessarily corrupt, but stupid and shouldn't exist. It is common for the grading companies to let unoriginal surfaces to slide for pre-1878 coins. Buy the coin and not the holder. Quote:
Has that capped bust been cleaned? Also what grade did it come in at? Yes, the coin has been cleaned. You can see the hairlines all over the fields. Also, according to paralyse's post, it graded XF-40, problem-free. |
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It is common for the grading companies to let unoriginal surfaces to slide for pre-1878 coins. Quote:
It's called "market grading".
I don't agree with it But there it is Very good to know. I'm going to do more homework on this 'market grading'. Thanks again all! |
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In the spirit of this post, I'll throw out another one that I've been watching. Beautiful coin and graded au-58. http://www.ebay.com/itm/142156777996But is it cleaned or uncleaned? |
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