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Pillar of the Community
United States
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In my quest for a recent type set I ran across this one. Private sale, knowledgeable dealer and sellers photos Opinions please....     |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I see nothing indicating any sign of fakery. Looks like a nice solid VF 30 or 35 to me.
However, I myself would never buy this valuable of a coin uncertified. If it's possible to make the purchase contingent on PCGS or NGC I would like this coin, depending on the price.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It's so clean that it makes you worry, but I think you're right.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
4211 Posts |
Thanks to both of you.
This dealer recently bought an old timers type set that has some amazing raw coins in it.
I will keep you posted and I always appreciate your help!
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
Please remember that there have been fake and fraudulent coins for a long time. Just because it was in an old collection does not guarantee authenticity. Most fake Trade dollars were made 50-60 years ago. You may have a great dealer but they shouldn't mind if you wanted a second opinion on expensive pieces. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4211 Posts |
 moxking. And yes he is fine with all of the above. He will stand behind the coin. Thank you for posting! |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I think it is a very nice looking VF coin. I am not afraid of buying raw coins. I do like to check them out. Weight is important. If possible check the silver finess, if the shop has a tester for checking. Check the edge ... compare it to good images that you can find online. If possible have them write on the sales slip that can be returned if sent into a TPG and not authentic. If you can get this coin at a good price ... I think it would be a good addition to your collection. |
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
Now you know we want to know HOW MUCH?
My guess $2700.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6370 Posts |
Everything looks as it should.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
There's a touch of porosity in a couple locations that concern me but nothing screams fake. Since it's a ~$3000 coin if genuine it needs professional in-hand authentication.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If it were me for the amount of money it will cost it BETTER be slabbed by PCGS or NGC.
And since you are asking for opinions that suggests that you don't feel confident making the authentication/originality/grading decision yourself.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3210 Posts |
For a valuable coin like this getting it authenticated by NGC or PCGS is a must, especially a person like myself who has a limited coin budget and doesn't wanna get burned by a fake.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts |
Solid VF30 with original toning & should full grade. A good example of the type. Edge lettering looks correct from what I can see from those pictures.
The (in)famous AMERICAI variety -- That big old die gouge on the reverse is an immediate giveaway.
Variety is BB-192, B-19 (R2)
Be proud of that one, and if possible resist the temptation to put it in a plastic slab for now unless you really, really need to. I do agree that professional authentication should be sought for 1) peace of mind and 2) insurance valuation.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Edited by paralyse
11/21/2016 9:57 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks pretty good although the rims seem a bit more sharply-defined than usual for a bust dollar. I presume the edge lettering is correct? It's one of the AMERICAI varieties BTW.
As noted, grading by PCGS or NGC should be mandatory for a coin like this.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thank ALL of you...and yes I do feel better asking for expert opinions. And no...I would not want to get burned. I do not have experience buying coins of this magnitude / cost and as of yet and have never spent over $1,000 on a coin.... except for a couple of 1 oz. gold purchases.  as I wait for some additional information and answers to my questions from the seller. Should we come to terms I will update everybody and reveal the asking price. |
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United States
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see if you can match up any die characteristics. compare with any auction results , in the areas I like to collect, color strike originality, surfaces matter more than grade when it comes to value. wouldn't hurt to ask a dealer that deals with these on a regular basis too. many of them are very knowledgeable, helpful and take the time to break down factors that you might not have thought of when it comes to building a great collection .
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Posted 11/21/2016 4:48 pm
