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1817 Russian Rouble

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 Posted 03/19/2008  12:55 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I think this is the first coin I ever bought on ebay. After I got it I realized it had been vigorously cleaned, giving it an unnatural glossy luster. I kept it anyway and with the increasing popularity of Russian coins that was probably a good decision. If you want to make any comments, feel free to be brutally honest!

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 Posted 03/19/2008  01:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have nothing bad to say about that coin--I like it, it's actually one of my favorite designs.
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To be brutally honest, I think you should carry in your pocket. That's where a polished coin belongs, and with time and wear the polish will gradually go away. I like the 1817 rouble on account of the deep strike of the eagle. I carry an 1831, but I like the 1817 better.
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Unfortunately polishing coins used to be an accepted practice. Still it is a nice coin. I agree with thq, some time in your pocket will help to get rid of those fine hairlines and glossy look from the polish.
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 Posted 03/20/2008  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like the die crack on the obverse!
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 Posted 03/21/2008  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is there some doubling/repunching on the "L" or is that pics?
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 Posted 03/21/2008  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin !
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 Posted 03/25/2008  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
JimR, here's a close-up of the obverse die crack:

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HABIB, here's a shot of the "L" (it's not an L of course, but I don't know the Cyrillic alphabet!). It's definitely re-punched, plus there are assorted die clashes or other odd features on the coin. Look by the right-side base of the "L":

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I'm taking Snowman and Thq's suggestion about carrying this coin in my pocket. Now if I can just remember not to add keys or spare change to the same pocket!
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Jaobler---I see the one you are talking about, but I was talking about the 'L' on the eagle side, unless I'm mistaken about my Cyrillic alphabet, which is 100% possible--MONETA RUB-L-YA, we would probably call it an upside down 'V'.
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Jaobler, I would do the opposite and recommend you NOT to wear that coin down to a F or worse. A coin in VF is worth around 50USD ish. Any lower well perhaps would be worth less but I wouldn't do it. You might lose details in the crack and doubling which is not what you want.

By the way, I would recommend you to post the coin in coinpeople in particular the Russian coin forum section as there are experts in Russian numismatics such as R.W. Julian and Steve Moulding - both of them are the editors of the Russian Numismatic Society and are highly respected.
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