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  nice little community you got here!
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Pillar of the Community
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Hi GoBulls, and welcome to the forum!
I don't see anything wrong with this coin, except for the rim damage. Color looks good and consistent for the amount of wear. The date looks correctly formed. There are several different sizes and locations for the CC mintmark on genuine 1889-CC Morgans. The mintmark on your coin seems to be a decent match for some slabbed examples on the Heritage website.
Do you have any reason to suspect it's not authentic?
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Looks good...but any way to get a close up of the "CC"?
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Bedrock of the Community
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WELCOME TO THE FORUM!
Nice looking coin.
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Jaobler, no I dont. on another forum I posted the morgans I just recently bought and he said they "screamed" faked..... he make a comment that the 89 cc may not be the real deal. ill be very sad if it is bc its the cornerstone of my collection... illl post my other morgans I received for you to look at... graceoutcast, i tried to get better scans or take good pictures but thats has good as it get or could get it to look. you could try to zoom into the pic on your pc other morgans -       |
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Your common-date Morgans (1899-O, 1898-O, 1891-O, and 1891-P) are probably real, just because the value of these coins does not justify the effort to make counterfeits. The 1892-P is a better date but still not worth faking in AU grade. Your 1892-CC looks like it was harshly cleaned but that doesn't mean it's a fake. If you can take better photos of that coin (like the ones for the 1889-CC) it would help.
I would invest the fee to have your 1889-CC graded by ANACS. You don't have to buy a membership to send coins to ANACS and I think you will be a lot happier if you get that puppy authenticated. If it is a fake you need to know.
By the way, I doubt the 1899-O is mint state. Many New Orleans Morgans are weakly struck on Liberty's hair and on the eagle's breast, but the lack of detail in these areas on your coin looks more like wear than strike weakness. Your '91-P and '98-O look a lot more like true MS coins.
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Looks good to me but I'm no expert on Morgans
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Looks good to me.
If you are seriously worried about it.. take it to your local NGC/PCGS dealer and have them auth it.
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Bedrock of the Community
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You also verify the weight.
EDIT - It should be 26.73 grams!
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03/21/2008 4:08 pm
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Looking good!  |
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here are up close pics of the 1892 cc color scan   this the grey scale scan   |
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Jaobler,
i scanned pics of the 1892 cc morgan. I also weighed my other 89-cc and it weighed in at .06lb (that was with the coin in the paper holder). I dont know where to get it weighed for an exact measure in grams. I just brought the coin into th local grocery store! lol How long does anacs take to grade the coin and ship it back?
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Hey GoBulls,
You need a gram scale that weighs to at least 0.1 gram in order to accurately weigh of your coins, plus you need to take them out of the 2X2. You might check at a jewelry store or pharmacy or go to a high school chem class; they all have scales and might be willing to weigh your coins.
ANACS has several levels ("tiers") of service. They probably have a 15-day turnaround level. Their Economy level is cheapest per coin but can take over 2 months. Also, you may not want to use Economy for your '89-CC since that level is for cheaper coins. If yours is real (as I believe) it is probably worth close to $1000. I'd spring for the 15-day level on that one.
Your '92-CC also looks OK to me, except for the probable cleaning. If you are going to send the '89-CC, it might also be worth sending the '92-CC. It can't hurt; it just depends on how much you want to spend on grading. Good luck, and please report on what happens if you do decide to send them in.
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Jaobler, I think ill do that tonight. Maybe ill go to the local cvs and have them weigh it at the pharmacy. I'm leaning on sending in the cc's bc I want to know if they are real or not. I dont expect that they are bc the coin dealer I bought them from has been in the same plaza since the mid 90's so if he was dishonest they likely wouldnt still be there. I dunno I'm pretty trusting and naive at times bc I tend to believe a lot of things. whats your honest grade for these coins? you were dead on the amount I paid for the 89-cc when you guessed its value... now that I look back at the coin its likely worth around that much and not what the Red Book says at VF. the damaged rim probably knocks the grade down to maybe fine. I dunno |
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Hi GoBulls,
I'd give the '89-CC a "VF-30 details, damaged" grade and the '92-CC a "VF-20 details, cleaned" grade. The '89 might be valued at about the F-15 to VF-20 level while the '92 would be worth F-12 money at best, in my opinion.
According to the PCGS price guide, the '89-CC is valued at $1150 in F-12 and $3700 in EF-40. They don't show any intermediate values between F and EF. The '92-CC is valued at $285 in F-12. Both these prices are retail values for no-problem coins in PCGS holders. You could probably buy PCGS-graded examples for somewhat less than what the price guide shows.
I'd guess your coins would have a real-world value of $1000 and $150, respectively. I would insure them for that amount, anyway. Obviously, I'm assuming they are genuine!
Good luck with your submission. Please let us know how it turns out!
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