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Need This 1885-CC Morgan To Grade AU-55? Thoughts?

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 Posted 11/28/2016  5:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ParkCityBranch to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is crazy but looking for some advice. I am putting together a circulated set of CC Morgan dollars in XF-40 to AU55. Because of the GSA hoard the 1885 is very hard to find in circulated. I found this and was thinking I could carry it around for a while until it looked AU55. I really like this specific coin. Advertised as MS60 but I am not even sure if it will for sure grade MS60. Maybe it will already grade AU58. Personally I didn't want to do AU58.

Thoughts? Good, bad, critical, just be honest.

https://www.lccoins.com/dollars-en/...rtified.html

Here is an idea of what I want to do:
1878-AU
1879-XF40
1879 Capped Die-XF40
1880-XF45
1881-XF40
1882-TBD
1883-TBD
1884-AU
1885-AU
1889-XF40
1890-XF45
1891-AU
1892-AU
1893-XF40

I was going to put together a completely uniform XF40 set but some of the price differences on the coins between grades is so small that it seemed like it wasn't the best idea.

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11/28/2016 5:46 pm
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I am thinking MS 64 ......
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 Posted 11/28/2016  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I understand the reason for your question.

I think that this coin has been advantageously photographed and you have to rely on the seller's supporting grading opinion.
I find it difficult to grade this coin from these particular pictures.

I would love to see this coin in hand, to be able to make a more confident buying decision.
Normally, I am not a fan of slabs, but in this case, it would have certainly been helpful.

To be on the safe side, I would take it as a (pessimistic) AU55 and make your buying decision accordingly.
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 Posted 11/28/2016  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like this coin a lot. Looks original and slightly toned. I don't see a lot of hits to call it MS-60.
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The coin is question is most likely a AU58 that is priced like a MS63. The coin is over priced, and it would be a bad idea to carry the coin in your pocket as the value will degrade with the lower grade. If you want a XF to AU55, be patient as they are out there. Buy one in a holder and crack it out as you will save about $200.

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 Posted 11/29/2016  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


I would wait until something showed up that either you could see in person or crack out of a slab.
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I think its a silly idea to wear a coin further like that.... it's not legitimate wear from the 1880s, its current wear, thus it seems bad and fake in my mind....
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Looks a point or two higher than -60 to me.
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I don't see any wear on this Morgan and the fields don't have any visible friction. No hairline scratches or obvious signs of cleaning, either. The subdued luster would preclude a gem grade but it looks like MS-63 is within reach.
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 Posted 11/30/2016  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Agree, buy it slabbed.



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I agree with coinfrog. If you buy it slabbed then you won't be disappointed. Trying to get a particular grade on an ungraded coin can lead to a whole lot of disappointment. If it's graded there is no argument unless it was graded by a second grade slabing company.
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Thank you to the community for the welcome and the replies. I took the advice into consideration and I am going to wait until I can find a slabbed one. I really like the coin that I found but I don't want to take the risk and be disappointed as I am trying to complete a very specific set.

Jason
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 Posted 12/05/2016  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am looking for a 85CC as well and I agree to buy it slabbed especially if you buy online and can't hold it in your hand. I see them going for between $700-800 on ebay.
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