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New Member
United States
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1855 first  reverse  1878 Obv  Reverse  1882 Obverse  1882 Reverse  Thanks! Mlgdave |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2589 Posts |
Here's what I would guess
1855: AU Details (Scratched)
1878: AU 55
1882: AU 58
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
AU-53, AU-50, AU-55.
If they were mine, I'd send them to NGC.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36844 Posts |
1855 AU-58 details, scratched
1878 AU-55 details, scratched
1882 AU-58
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Can't argue with IGE's grades.  to the CCF! |
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Canada
11922 Posts |
1) AU-58 Details.
2) AU-53, but also looks Details.
3) AU-55.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Wow, you guys are tough. I get that there are lots of hairlines, to differing degrees, but it doesn't seem to me like any of these scratches are severe enough to rise to the level where it would earn a details grade. Probably can be dealt with by net grade adjustments. Maybe I still have a lot to learn. IGE and others have a lot of experience, so I will defer, but I am astounded. They all look straight AU and even MS before adjustment to me, and I would be happy to own any of these coins. Thanks for sharing - I am learning tons.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
Most Americans who know their gold coins well, are very tough on the grading.
I happen to agree with them.
The CCF is a good place to get an honest grade for these.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6370 Posts |
Be VERY CAREFUL with these. Fakes abound.
My opinions:
1855: FAKE
1878: FAKE
1882: I need to look in hand, but I am thinking fake.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I really hate it when people upload from Photobucket... 1855 - Moth-Eaten Obverse rim and denticles - Spikes between K6-K9 on obverse - Spikes at K8 and K11 on reverse. - Weird polishing marks at K9-K10   1878 - Spikes at K6 and K9 on obverse - Strike through string at K5 - Spikes at K7 on reverse   1882 - Depression at K11 on obverse - Spike at K2 on reverse - Depression at K11 on reverse - Strike through string on reverse   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Thanks for sharing your analysis with us TC and all other contributors. Certainly $3G carries such are large premium that TPG is always cost effective. Wish that TPGs carried this type of detailed analysis alongside their plastic cases, maybe in embedded data storage in the slab, but legal liability will likely preclude that from ever happening. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
12/04/2016 10:26 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I like the 1882 as an AU-53. Others I feel are detail grades AU-55-
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Sorry, I have questions about the authenticity of the three coins also. The relief and sharpness just don't look right. Here is a piece that I bought raw many years ago and had graded. Compare the crisp sharp look that it has, which typical of a U.S. Mint product.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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While I am not familiar with diagnosing fakes of $3 golds, some of the details you guys are pointing out may indeed be scratches and debridement from cleaning the coins in question.
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Posted 12/02/2016 8:56 pm
