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I'm new To The Forum; Need Advice 1899 Barber Dime PCGS AU 58 Asap

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Hi, I'm new, I registered becaues I need immediate feedback, and I figured who better to ask then the pros?
Anyway, I have a coin that I am contemplating selling. It is an 1899 Barber dime PCGS AU 58 its reverse is BEAUTIFULLY TONED. I am unsure of its value, and I am worried that I may have it undervalued. Below is a picture

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Any and all input as to its value would be appreciated.

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 Posted 12/06/2016  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


I hope you're not in too much of a hurry to sell this coin. Taking your time will get the best price.

Just taking a quick look at NumisMedia Fair Market Values -- the collector value for AU 58 is $92. If you are selling to a dealer, expect about half that much. If you're selling to a pawn shop you'll be lucky to get $10 or $20.

I think that $92 is high but it all depends upon where you live and who your customer is. But you might get that if you sell it on ebay. Watch that site for SOLD prices of that coin and see what's really happening.

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Thank you for the welcome and the quick response. I kinda had an idea of book value, however a search through ebay revealed that there are VERY few coins so richly toned, and the ones that are (slightly) similar have huge markups. I was wondering if I was missing something, and need a guide to price beautifully toned coins... For example, I had a really really nice rainbow toned roosevelt (1958-D MS67.* {NGC}) that sold for 145$... Which is approximately 3x what I paid... How can I be sure that I'm not underselling suce a pretty specimen of an older series?
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dual-brain!

Sometimes eye appeal will drive a price on a coin far beyond "book value" but beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say.
It's matching the perfect buyer with their version of beauty. It does not always happen and I have seem some beautifully toned Morgans sell for 3 and 4 times book value and some not even come close. If selling on a venue like ebay just take the best pictures possible and hope the right buyer comes along.
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ebay is at best unpredictable. I've been selling there for years (not coins) but quality pictures and many of them definitely increase your chances of the right buyer finding it and accepting your price. Plus, ebay offers a tremendous exposure for your listing worldwide and useful features like Fixed Price, Best Offers and Reserve Prices (although I would discourage the latter because I feel it reduces the appeal of the listing).
I'm with Buddy, SOLD item searches are far more useful especially when you sort them by the most recent SOLD. It gives you a good idea of who might still be out there looking for your piece but didn't win the last auction.

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I think the risk with sold prices is you don't know if the coin would have also sold at a higher price. Maybe treat it as a possible low figure? And ultimately what buyers are going to do is compare yours with other like coins on the market now and look for the best value. With toned coins you can't really use price guides. Personally I would say do a search for other beautifully toned Barber dimes and try to value yours based on your own honest comparative appraisal. Then maybe discount it to give it an extra edge. I am not a seller, but I've bought a number of color toned coins so take that for whatever it's worth.
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Thank you for the welcome and the quick response. I kinda had an idea of book value, however a search through ebay revealed that there are VERY few coins so richly toned, and the ones that are (slightly) similar have huge markups. I was wondering if I was missing something, and need a guide to price beautifully toned coins... For example, I had a really really nice rainbow toned roosevelt (1958-D MS67.* {NGC}) that sold for 145$... Which is approximately 3x what I paid... How can I be sure that I'm not underselling suce a pretty specimen of an older series?


Typically the coins with the nice toning only on the reverse do not sell for the strong premium unless the coin is rare, or the reverse is the side of interest. I would expect your coin to sell for the book value or small premium on ebay because it does have nice reverse toning. Coins with nice toning on the obverse or both sides can command a strong premium. When you list your coin on ebay, list the starting auction price for the minimum you are willing to take for the coin, and use a nice photo of the reverse as your door photo. For example, list the starting auction at book value and if the toning is going to command a premium, then, the auction will determine the value.
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Welcome to the CCF. That's a VERY pretty coin, toning-wise. IMHO, it could well fetch a premium over $90.

I note that the pic of the 1899 dime is NOT flattering by any means. It is not cropped properly, and the orientation/rotation is out-of-whack. Also, there's no obverse pic. I don't say this to be critical. I want to simply make the point that good pics will sell coins. From a buyer's perspective, some of the best bargains to be found on ebay can be attributed to poor pics, posted by a seller.

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You will also find that some of the best prices achieved, especially for coins that have an added advantage (such as this reverse toning) will achieve the highest price if you list in auction format and start the bidding (without reserve) very low, even .99 cents.

Present better pictures. As has been mentioned, the only one we see isn't a great representative sample, and without a shot of the obverse it's really impossible to give you too much advise, even if it's been TPG'ed at 58.
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If I owned it, I'd get it graded and sell it at auction on a site like GreatCollections.com. I've been watching auctions on toners the last couple weeks, and they are definitely hot sellers (there are a couple Jefferson nickels whose book value is $10, listed at over $100, and already getting bids!)

Based on your photo, it looks like a nice one!
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PS. GreatCollections.com seems to have a reputation for selling toners, and there do appear to be more there than at Heritage. I'm guessing that toner fans probably look there first. If you really want to assess the market, search using the term "toned" and narrow the results to a date range or coin type and completed sales, then look at the coins themselves and see what they went for and how recently (obviously, see what the book value would be without the toning). If there are any toned Barber dimes in the upcoming auction, break out the popcorn and watch to see what they go for on Sunday.
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The coin is currently for sale on ebay with a reserve price auction. See link below and you can view both sides of the coin.
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Yes, it is my auction. I didn't want to advertise or anything... I was contemplating ending the auction as I am worried that I had underestimated the price that it could achieve... I guess I just like the coin and find the reserve I set to be conservative because there are no real comperable coins currently listed...
I'm curious as I have not found any coins that I can say are as pretty' and I don't know if I'll ever find any coins that can compare... I'm willing to sell it -for the right price- but I don't know what an upper limit on a coin like this is...
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Now, having looked at the better, close-up pics, I can see why it's graded AU. Beautiful as the reverse is, the obverse has scuff marks on Lady Liberty. If the obverse was anything near the reverse, it'd be a super sweet piece. As is, my guess would be maybe ... $125 tops. I've sold a bunch of common date Barber dimes in recent years, AU's without the toning but with nicer obverses than this 1899, in the $60-$80 range.
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