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Ahhhh! The Chinese Are Counterfeiting Seated Liberty Dollars Now

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1842-Morgan...AOSwa~BYTWbn

I'm going to post this in the counterfeit section as well, but the seller labels this as a morgan, but obviously not. If you look at it closely it looks weird, and they want upto 35 working days to ship? It has to be coming from China....
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Seller lists 5 fakes, all with bids. The good part is you can tell all of these are bad from 5 feet away.
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This is nothing new. They've been faking Seated Liberty dollars and Trade dollars for years. At least these are easy to spot.
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If by "now" you include the past 20 years, I would agree.
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I really wanted to see the listing but, alas, it has been removed.
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Anybody think that there are more fake Seated dollars out there than real surviving examples?
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Some days it seems like it.
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Anybody think that there are more fake Seated dollars out there than real surviving examples?


IMHO, yes, assuredly so. I wonder if the Chinese kept mintage records?

Back in the 1990's, I previewed a case of coins that were to be sold the following day in a gun auction. There were a number of fake dollars, including an 1884 and an 1885 Seated type. I informed the auctioneer and strongly suggested he confirm my assessment before selling the stuff.

As there was nothing in the auction for me, I didn't attend. I later heard through a friend that all the "coins" were sold. His brother-in-law had spent thousands on the coins, himself. I offered to go to court with the guy and testify if need be. Apparently, he was too embarrassed or intimidated to pursue the matter.
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Yeah, it seems like whenever I see a post about this sort of thing, the listing is deleted by the time I click the link. I'd love it if folks would save the photos on ebay and post them here.

I assume the best way to recognize counterfeits is to become really, really familiar with the real thing. Still, I'd like to lay eyes on fakes as people find them.
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Did it look like this ?



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Probably about 10 years ago, I saw a "complete set" of Liberty Seated dollars. They were all Chinese counterfeits, and they even came in a Chinese counterfeit of a Dansco album!
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