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It's at the very least a Very nice Die Crack, maybe even a Cracked Skull. Is it enclosed? I can't tell from the pics. I'm pretty sure to be a Retained Interior Die Break, there needs to be either horizontal or vertical metal displacement.
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12/13/2016 8:56 pm
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coinmasters-spent a while looking for definition of cracked skull to no avail. You ask is it enclosed. Not sure exactly what you mean. Find alot of references here and on other sites but none that I have found define exactly what a cracked skull is. Any help? Thanks.
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Nice crack and nice coin if the crack doesn't reach the rim it would not be listed as a 'spike head' on COC I see where the cracks splits off but then just ends-the raised portions of metal on the crack itself would not be large enough to meet the definition of a interior die break this is all based on what I can make out tho...
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12/13/2016 11:35 pm
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I haven't seen a definition either jprine, I'm begiinig to think it's a bit subjective. Everyone labeled Cracked Skull (that I've seen), seems to have about two or more intersections of die cracks on Abe's head. Maybe one is good enough, a question for JC.
By enclosed I meant was there an area engulfed by cracks?
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12/14/2016 6:32 pm
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I think this would be a die crack. As CoinMasters said, there needs to be lateral or vertical displacement. The two areas I see that have vertical displacement are not large enough to be considered a RIDB....but...I could be wrong.
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I think the experts disagree on the displacement. If my memory serves me correctly, Ken Potter advocated it, as it lent proof of the break. Others didn't require it. When the experts disagree, we make up our own minds. I disagreed with him on Billy Crawford, but I agree with him on the displacement. We haven't heard from a few of the experts that used to sign on here. It would be great if that would change.
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This is an explanation of the RIDB-1c-2016-01R I had listed. http://cuds-on-coins.com/lincoln-ce...r-die-break/ This is the explanation of the error. Quoting BJ "You have a "two for". The large area is a retained die break. The surface within the break is of the same consistency of the surrounding area. So that piece has not fallen away, but is still within the die. There is a small die break / chip at the left end of the die crack that formed the retained interior die break." End Quote This tells me that to be a retained die break, there must be displacement. |
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Nice. It also has to be of a minimum size which if I recollect correctly is 3-4mm
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Below is the definition of size I received from JC in an earlier e-mail. The definition was in quotations so I am assuming he is quoting another source.
"Any void encompassing an area of 4 square millimeters or more qualifies as an interior die break. Any void that covers less than 1 square millimeter is a die chip. In between is a gray area."
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