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1959 Lincoln Memorial Cent Cent With A Doubling In Liberty

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 Posted 03/23/2008  07:12 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found some back date BU rolls and 3 coin in to the roll I found this.

1959-Lincoln-Memorial-Cent-Cent-With-A-Doubling-In-Liberty 1959-Lincoln-Memorial-Cent-Cent-With-A-Doubling-In-Liberty 1959-Lincoln-Memorial-Cent-Cent-With-A-Doubling-In-Liberty 1959-Lincoln-Memorial-Cent-Cent-With-A-Doubling-In-Liberty

what do you think?
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 Posted 03/23/2008  07:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coffeegod to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You know.......I was gonna say MD just by looking at "Liberty". The thickness of the other devices though I think would contraindicate that assessment. Possibly a DDO. I'd wait for the others to come along though.
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 Posted 03/23/2008  07:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thats what I was thinking myself?
but I rather have CC Coop or Foundinarolls add there views.before tag it a DDO if so most of the first 10 coin in the roll look like this one.
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 Posted 03/23/2008  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorgansRmine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry amac, all I see is Machine Doubling. Notice how the tops of the lettering appear to be cut and made smaller but no separation. No clash on 9, just more MD.
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 Posted 03/23/2008  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coffeegod to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What I've learned from looking at the different error & variety sites, especially Coppercoins, is that you don't always have to have seperation for a coin to be a DDO / DDR. C.C. has on several occasions expressed "Thickness", to some of his varieties. Some have barely noticable notches, some are just thick. I see What your talking about with the MD, which some is present. The devices themselves though are pretty thick. Again, I'm a novice, but the thickness does stand out. C.C., Coop, FIR and others will no more about it than I know also. Could just be a form of MD, I don't know. I'm curious to see the feed back on what it really is.
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 Posted 03/23/2008  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Me too Eric!
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 Posted 03/23/2008  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coffeegod to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, after further scrutiny......I thought it was lighting, but I do see some light splitting to the right side of the "B", "E", "R". I can't tell with the date from the light glare though.
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 Posted 03/23/2008  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It will be interesting to hear from the guys. Some of what I am seeing looks like ejection doubling. There is so much reflection back from the coin that what I am looking at may just be shine.

Jim
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 Posted 03/23/2008  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin! Not sure it's a DDO--all the ones I've seen have doubling of similar relief in the devices.
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That way I posted it I have seen coins like this one go 2-3 ways MMD,DDO or worn dies.
I guess if we all sat down a table with lops and coin in hand we would have 3-4 different answers.

Then I send it off to a TPG and they have different decision and that final one we never thought of.
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Sometimes even the third party graders can be off. But I think this is a normal coin with die wear toward the rim. If you not all devices, the edges facing the rim has that heavy wear pattern on the edge facing the rim. (Which appears on the West side of the devices on the left, East side on the right half of the coin and so on. That happens to coins from every die in later die states. The images are very good and showed what I needed to see. On the date side you see the stronger die flow lines on both sides of the date. On the left side you see the heavier wear on the rim edges of LIBERTY. But again very nice images. The coin seems to be a higher grade coin because it has very few dings on the devices on the reverse. A few dings on the obverse that knock down the grade some. But if you can find an obverse and reverse like the reverse of your coin, then you would really have a MS-65 or higher coin. So I feel it is not a variety, but an educational piece that you can use to see what an excellent reverse looks like.
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 Posted 03/24/2008  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That what I was thinking that it was worn dies maybe farther in the roll I will find the real thing this was 2-10 I looked at from a Gem Bu roll. thanks coop !

Plus thanks to all the folks who responded!
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 Posted 03/24/2008  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see nothing but a normal 1959 cent.
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To ad a little...There is definite Machine Doubling on the loop of the 5 in the date.

What you are seeing on LIBERTY is metal flow produced by a worn die. It can give the appearance of doubling when you look straight down on it. As CC says, a very normal looking 1959 cent.
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 Posted 03/24/2008  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks Bill!
that was a nice find In Coin World of half dollar ?
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 Posted 03/24/2008  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeremymh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would also say that it is Machine Doubling.
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