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Early Wheat Cent Die Deterioration In A Different Direction.

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Early Wheat cent Die Deterioration

Several years ago I purchased a 1913-S coin that looked like a RPM. It looked like multiple 'S' mint marks on it. It was later found to be a did deterioration issue on the die.
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When looking at the date, I noticed the die wear was in the wrong direction. Instead of flowing towards the rims, it was flowing towards the center of the coin. I kicked several different ideas around about how this could happen. Was it an issue with a hub that was wearing out. But then, I noticed that the mint mark was affected also. So it I knew then it could not be a hub issue. (dies are hubbed first, then mint mark is applied in a separate application) Both the die wear and the mint mark showed the same direction. So I put that on the back burner for a while.

Now with the great images on the PCGS COINFACTS website, I would figure out what years were affected by this. I determined 1911-1917 years were affected. Also the 1918, but it was not as drastic. If seems to show on the VLDS dies and also show the ghost image on the reverse of the coins. (progressive indirect design transfer)
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The devices on LIBERTY were also affected like the Die Deterioration of today's coins. The 1916 year I didn't find examples of this on the website. That year the design was a bit stronger so I feel that kept the dies fresher that year. (or there were not examples of that on the web site)
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So the dies were affected by something that we don't see on later coins, that cause the die wear in that direction. It might have been something with the larger rims at that time? But the 1909 & 1910 coins didn't have this issue. So I thought I would show the examples I found. (just the date and mint mark areas)

The numbers are date and mint mark and coin number in case I needed more information about one of them.
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1912
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1913
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1915-1918[/b]
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So this is the only case of a different direction of die wear I've found. I guess it shows there are always exceptions to the rules.
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What a magnificent detailed explanation with your usual superior photo presentation.

Thank you for your ceaseless effort to educate us on all the details of minting and the results of minting.
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I wish I could remember a tenth of what you know.
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Wow. Very cool!
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Thanks coop I

What great information - I am going to see if any of my LC's for those years are showing this type of Die Deterioration.
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Thanks for the lesson. Really like that 1918 18 1.1
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Thanks for the tutorial,I really enjoyed it!
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So the dies for those years wore faster in the center. That's really odd. The larger rims sounds logical for a contributing factor. Was there something different in the design from the other years? Was there something different in the way they were struck? Was there something different in the way the planchets were made? I think something must have been different. Did the Indian Heads wear toward the center? Something must have changed around 1917.
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coop you make it easier for us to enjoy the hobby.Thank you
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Thank you Coop for another very interesting lesson in error/variety collecting. Nowhere can I find more understandable explanations of anomalies on coins than from your photographic tutorials. You make learning easy.
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