How Would You Grade This Special 1934 50 Cent Coin..?

luster is completely broken on the cheek, jaw and brow, there is a long fine scratch in front of the face, from the lower area of the crown all the way to the king's nose, the lower left field of the obverse shows noticeable chatter as well as some black spots. there is also a major hit in between the "A" and "D" in "CANADA" and some noticeable chatter under the crown on the left as well and scattered luster breaks. this coin in my opinion is an MS-64.

Thanks for the views on the previous 34..

..now here is another.."Not perfect pics".. but much nicer (my opinion) than the NGC 66+ offered at the top..

This has to go to PCGS..When flipping from screen to screen on these 2 obverses..

I feel that the band with the 8 jewels is better defined with this 34 when looking above the forehead....

Do you see a difference in the strike of these 2 34's..?

Any opinions or critiques much appreciated again..






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Everest..Thanks for that important added knowledge on the 34 from the previous page one..PCGS gave it a 66...way back when..

I think there is a bit of camera blur on 2nd coin. It looks very nice, but photos are nit of same quality. It could pass for 66, but might be a 65+ technical due to hit in front of mouth. The toning is not as nice, but looks pretty good. It would be interesting to see them with same camera setup ir side by side. The color of the 1st is had to beat.

Coin #1
Obverse;
Lots of (Chatter) on the kings cheek and neck also a couple of large hits in front of the chin with bagmarks below.
Legends are nice and clean with some nice toning throughout.
Reverse;
Many heavy hits in the bottom half of the fields on the coin and the legends and design are bagged up.
Once again the toning is pleasing.
MS64, Some graders may see this as MS63 even.

Coin#2
Obverse;
Contact marks in front of the king some could be significant ( Hard to tell from these images)also some minor contact marks behind the head.
A few minor marks in the legends but not too distracting.
Reverse;
3 minor hits above the second "A" in CANADA, Some minor hits in the legends and design but not too distracting.
MS65 once again this could be seen as MS64 by some.

The 2nd one is yours or soon to be? Very nice.

How is the color, I always find it difficult to accurately capture the color and details, HA usually does a really nice job, and you can see everything, as in coin #1.

I agree about photos through plastic. Is it ICCS? Is so, grade?

The gouge in front of George's chin on the first coin precludes a 66 grade, it looks quite recent in fact.
The fields of the second coin appear to warrant at least a 65, maybe 66 in hand. However I don't consider the strike quality to be above par, the vertical beads,fleur de lis, and central parts of the maltese crosses on the obverse are not sharp. The jewels in the ermine band of the crown are not evident at all,there is a mushiness and lack of detail directly below the chin, as well there is softness at the apex of the ribbon. At MS66 or above I prefer to see an above average strike showin most of the detail the designer intended.

I don't understand why anyone would move a PCGS 66 Canadian coin to an NGC holder.A move that could cost a couple of thousand dollars at auction.