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A Morgan To "Watch" For!

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This item is in a mail order catalog I just received....

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I don't agree that Morgan dollars "are becoming increasingly hard to find". There are literally over 50,000 available right now on ebay.
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Who doesn't want an 1895, right
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That Morgan dollar certainly doesn't look genuine to me, and they're still more common than pebbles on the beach.
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Now how do I get that 1895 out of that stupid watch?
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You can likely buy one for $9.95 on the no-no site!
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Obviously, any uncirculated Morgan dated 1895 is worth thousands, so the illustration ought to raise eyebrows. Being kind, the watch itself is certainly sourced from China, so perhaps the pictured example was a mockup piece that utilized a locally procured modern fake. But even if the production version is made with a genuine uncirculated Morgan as averred, there'd be a technical problem were it mounted on the hinged, spring loaded dial cover, and that'd be functional due to the weight. The practical solution would be to section the coin so that just a thin veneer could be inlaid (with the benefit that the remainder could then be salvaged for its silver content). I've seen this technique employed with respect to wristwatches for which a real coin is used for the face.

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It is a poor attempt to copy a once popular pocket watch case design, however, as you noted, it is a poor attempt due to the standard hinge. The original design were almost all hunter cases (with the movement mounted a turn 90 degrees clockwise) so that the cover opened to the right or left depending on handedness. I do not recall seeing a vintage example with a Morgan dollar, but have seen several with $1, $2.50, and $5 gold pieces mounted, usually backed with gold (not gold-filled) cases and the 21+ jewel railroad grades for movements.
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It is a poor attempt to copy a once popular pocket watch case design, however, as you noted, it is a poor attempt due to the standard hinge. The original design were almost all hunter cases (with the movement mounted a turn 90 degrees clockwise) so that the cover opened to the right or left depending on handedness.


Yes, as you point out the orientation of the dial is correct for an open face case but at odds with the normal practice for a hunter case.

A standard type of hinge might suffice, but with the heft of a whole Morgan attached to the cover, there'd have to be a very robust spring to power its opening, and the arresting of the momentum at the end of its travel would be a "clunky" affair at best. Even if the hinge could take the repeated battering, I wouldn't expect the stop to hold up for long. That'd be a poor piece of engineering given it's supposed to "become a "treasured family heirloom!"

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My heirloom 1921 Elgin (12s/17 jewel 345 grade) movement is mounted in an 1890s 18K G/F Philadelphia Watch Co. hinged case with stem release, and it's still operating as intended 100+ years later despite being a somewhat fragile arrangement from the get-go. I can't imagine the same being true if I glued a giant mass of silver dollar to the front of it.
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I recently bought a pocket watch from this company, and just my luck it came with an 1804 Silver Dollar in the case. Best deal I ever got!
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I recently bought a pocket watch from this company, and just my luck it came with an 1804 Silver Dollar in the case. Best deal I ever got!


Well, then, post a pic!

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