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Dark Toning And Value? Anyone Collect Them?

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Does black toning hurt the value of coins? Anyone have a dark toned coin collection? You always hear about people wanting blast white but never dark toned. Is this just caused by end of roll coins or does it indicate improper storage?
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can you post a couple of photos, everyone has a different opinion, on toned coins. but black is a whole different can of worms..
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I have a fondness for XF dark toned Morgan & Peace dollars. They are the 'ugly stepchildren' of the coin hobby, almost always discounted in price.
Dark toning is end stage toning; more accurately called 'tarnish', which is silver sulfide. Those blue and rainbow toned specimens? Hope you have them stored in controlled atmosphere. They are headed for the dark side like so many other fine shiny specimens subject to atmospheric pollution. One of the worst is tobacco smoke.
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Here's one of them. Hard to see from the pictures but it's a full torch coin.



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It's in a slab so will it get any worse/darker?
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 Posted 01/07/2017  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brenpickle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like dark toning, especially if it gives the coin a circulated cameo effect.
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I don't like dark toning. It makes my job of grading coins that much harder.
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Dark toning can cover other problems.
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A. Black toned 1966 Silver Dollar.
The reverse is a Gold colour.
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Many of my early Roosevelts are toned an ugly brown / black which I do not find attractive.

I have seen many toned coins that I admire but not my Roosies.
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It depends. Sometimes I don't mind it and it can look nice, other times it is unattractive. That Roosevelt dime is still attractive IMO, but I would probably not pay as much for it as a blast white coin.
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It all depends on eye appeal.
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Quote:
It all depends on eye appeal.
This.

Black is (can be) beautiful.
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I like dark toning on some coins. This is my 1849 Seated Liberty dollar I just purchased. Nicknamed 'The Dark Knight'.



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Nicknamed 'The Dark Knight'.
I like that. And the coin.
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I'm not a big fan of Mike's coin. Don't get me wrong, dark toning can be beautiful, but I just don't like the splotchy look of that one.
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Mike's Seated dollar coin looks more like the 'Twilight' knight compared to this one with its nearly uniform end-stage dark toning on both sides. My kitchen-tabletop photography does not do justice to the subtle color shifts on the reverse. Coin has held its honored place in my Dansco 7070 album for several years now. It is a very difficult and expensive type to upgrade.

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