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Very Odd 1 Cent.......indeed!

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Found this while sorting and I can not find anything similar anywhere online, looking for some speculation or perhaps some education . Beautiful rim effects.

Very-Odd-1-Cent.......indeed!

Very-Odd-1-Cent.......indeed!

Very-Odd-1-Cent.......indeed!

Very-Odd-1-Cent.......indeed!

Very-Odd-1-Cent.......indeed!

Very-Odd-1-Cent.......indeed!

Very-Odd-1-Cent.......indeed!
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It kind of looks like it got pressed on a hot grill
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Rim is perfectly uniform all way around and center still has depth.....
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Or someone grinded it
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Def not grinded
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Weight?
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Let's state the obvious, the coin has been squeezed with an enormous amount of pressure in order to flatten the devices, flake off the plating, and enlarge 'CANADA.' The obverse doesn't seem to have been effected and must have been seated in some sort of collar to keep part of the rim intact and the queen protected..

Whether it's PMD or not I'm interested to see what others can come up with for an explanation.

Weight and possibly the thickness might be of some help.
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I cannot see how that could have been done at the mint, maybe its my eyes but the photo's are a bit blurry
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Thanks for the welcome mike #128075;

And regards to Selects request for measures and weights.....as per my measurements with my digital vernier:

Both non magnetic
Standard 2009 1 cent. "Strange 1 cent"

Diameter. 19.03 mm Same (19.03)
Dia of wider rim 19.78 mm
Thickness at rim. 1.34 mm 1.15 mm
Thickness through design. 1.25 mm
Thickness of "thin" rim. 0.26 mm


Weights..... N/A ...... Haven't got a scale .... Haven't got that far into coins yet ......

And there isn't an app for that lol
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Take it to CP outlet, ask nicely their scales are accurate
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CP? Canada post?
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Right on
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Don't know how it may have been pressed but it indeed looks like was placed in a machining type collar,note ridge around rim. Since reverse in now effectively flat, could this be to mount on a piece of jewelry, medallion or other object?
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Looks to me like this was done using a crimping machine.
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Looks like a Partial-Collar Broadstrike. It has a classic "railroad rim" (like a railroad car wheel).
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I have seen broadstruck coins on zinc plated 1-cent coins (from 2005), they look nothing like that...

It looks like the rim and highest points were flattened out, after the strike, note the stretching of CANADA.

I can't quite say how it happened, but I can say that it did not happen at the mint. The reverse die would not allow stretching like that, broadstruck or not....
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