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Edited by EFLargeCents
01/16/2017 2:18 pm
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Amazing collection! And I agree with Spence: Itīs good to see that they stay together after so much time :)
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Well as you can see some of them did find excellent homes nearby. I did not want to point in any particular direction. But now comes the regret ........ ZUT ALORS ! I have separated twins !! No great hurry my friend ....... but At some point EF we need to figure out how to rectify this tragedy   Edited by FVRIVS RVFVS
01/16/2017 5:26 pm
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First off - this is a great looking collection - very nice and thanks for sharing. Now... Please consider me the most intellectually dumb person concerning ancients - but they have caught my eye as of recent. I like the Roman coins specifically. But what are the collecting schemes? For example - the coins in your pics... to the untrained eye like mine, these are all the same. I mean "the same" in that all Mercury dimes are the same coin. But Merc have different dates and three different mints. So its easy to identify how people collect them - date and MM. What differences define how you collect ancients? How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 |
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People collect ancients on whatever happens to catch their fancy.
Some people collect by mint ( Rome - Trier - Lyon - Constantinople etc )
Many people are taken by the "time of Jesus" thing.
Some by dynasty Julio-Claudians - Severan - Constantine etc.
The coins above posted by EF are attributed to London and he is drawn to coins which have connections to Britain. That includes obverse legends where an emperor adopts the name BRIT in his titles or reverses which depict BRITANNIA seated (prototype for the penny reverse) or other depictions.
I am fond of the London tetrarchy folles because they uniformly depict the four emperors in either imperial mantle or military uniform (as opposed to a bare bust type) and they depict the emperors in a more realistic portrait style. Britain at this time had been reincorporated into the empire after a long period of independence under usurpers Carausius and Allectus. The military was in firm control and the coins reflect it.
Many other cities in the eastern empire also tend to portraits so overly stylized as to be almost bizarrely comical.
As I acquired these folles I noticed the different portrait types that I believe represent different workshops within the mint.
Remember that official Roman mints were huge operations which needed to produce coins to pay armies of tens of thousands as well as an imperial bureaucracy.
If the soldiers didn't get paid on time emperors found themselves without many friends.
Collect what strikes your fancy !
Don't worry too much about rare types
That's for old poops like myself ........,
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Great responses to the "how to collect ancients" question. As FVRIVS mentioned, I collect Britain minted and Britain related. I also collect by dynasty, by ruler/mint and I am collecting Roman women on coins (another recent thread here). You can collect reverse by theme as well (ie animals, military, gods, etc). There are SO many different ways to go about it! It is always fun and never boring.
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Incredible collection of bronzes! They are all in immaculate condition. Did you buy them as a hoard, or did you pick and choose?
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Long and short of it ......
I realized when the seller seemed to have a vast inventory of remarkably similar coins that I was buying from a hoard. Three at a time they were sold 4 times a week for over a year. At a later date the seller contacted me about taking the remainder. Unfortunately the 'ask' was based on previous sales and the remainder was missing all the VF XF material. I bought as many as I could but it did add up to more than my budget could allow ! Hence the need to sell off some of the group.
If I could do it over again I would have gotten a bank loan !!!
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Sent you a PM FVRIVS RVFVS!
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@furius rufus, it is interesting that you shared this story: Quote:
I realized when the seller seemed to have a vast inventory of remarkably similar coins that I was buying from a hoard. Three at a time they were sold 4 times a week for over a year. At a later date the seller contacted me about taking the remainder. As I had a similar experience several years back with Hungarian denars. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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The seller actually offered to sell me the bronze pot ! Well I was terribly excited ..... Until I saw the pics and the 'ask' 500 euros for some corroded bits of bronze Just the rim and base really with some fragments of unidentifiable bits in between. I had hoped for better but many of the coins were very corroded on one side. I assume these were the outer layers. In a nearly incomprehensible French (dialect) I learned that the find had been given to a 'Brit' who had done a fabulous job of conservation. But some things are simply beyond saving. 'EF' I received no message Either try again use backdoor through ebay |
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FVRIVS sent you an email this time!
500 euros for a broken pot seems a bit steep. But the pics might be just as valuable for your records!
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 Reunited !And it feels so gooood (God I hate that song) UPDATE  Well as it turns out monsieur 'EF' (large) had in fact stumbled across the same seller back in 2015 and acquired the Max follis in one of the many auctions. (The other 4 had come by way of my need to make my debt payments !) Of course we both wanted the pair (together) but how to decide which direction the coin should fall ? Well I decide to make use of my superior number of legions and ..... summoning the ghosts of my best generals (Diocletian & Maximianus) ...... I quite simply made this 'usurper' an offer he could not refuse !   I am certain we both come out "winners" on this treaty Headed north ..... One Maximianus (London) Headed south ..... One Maximianus (London) One Galerius (London) One Diocletian (Trier) One Constantius (Lyon) Yesterday morning I returned home around 11AM Looking out my kitchen window I spied a ferocious looking hawk not 10 yards away. He looked at me and I at him. Next he alighted and perched but 20 feet away. A few minutes later he repeated and made a 3rd landing even closer. Within hours the packet arrived ! Being ever skeptical by nature I normally would not think about it too much. But I have lived here 12 years and never beheld such an omen. Perhaps Maximian (the only emperor to claim the rank and titles of Augustus 3 times) was giving me his approval ..... and letting me know that he was already in the neighborhood ! 
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Fantastic presentation and write up! Really nice to have the die match showcased like that! Exceptional!
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