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Newer Clad Coins: Is It Just Me...?

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It seems to me that on the edges of newer clad coins that the copper is much more prominent on newer coins, especially quarters and halves. On older coins the silver colored nickel alloy seemed to cover more of the edge but newer coins one sees very little of the outer clad.

I wonder if this is caused by some different processes used in manufacturing. Perhaps I am crazy and just imagining it...
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It's most probably improved die steels and sharper blanking dies.

Metal is smeared over much of the edge by the blanking dies.
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Clad has changed quite a bit over the years. In early days the three sheets were forced together in an hydraulic press and then dynamite detonated above them to complete the bonding. Now days there is steel strong enough to just roll them together.
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I don't care much for the newer clads. I find the relief on the quarters to be too low and I could easily see them wearing out much faster than their high relief counterparts. Maybe I am the only one but I miss Washington's spaghetti hair...made the coin have character.
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... and then dynamite detonated above them ...


Q/ The pressure wave from the explosion did not vary too much from point-to-point on the sheet?

I would have thought that a compressed-air-powered plate would have done the trick; easier to predict, easier to control, easier to clean up.

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From whom does the mint buy clad metal sheets?
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Olin Corporation holds the patent on cupronickel trilayer clad metal. I am fairly certain that they also supply the manganese-brass clad for the golden dollars as well.
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Q/ The pressure wave from the explosion did not vary too much from point-to-point on the sheet?

I would have thought that a compressed-air-powered plate would have done the trick; easier to predict, easier to control, easier to clean up.


They had a lot of problem with the coins separating into layers in the early days. It's quite likely that those near the edge of the sheets were more likely to fall apart.
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Thanks for the link jbuck.
I enjoyed the tour of the factory.
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