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55-S LWC Possible RPM?

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Not sure if this is a rpm due to the 9 having some die damage. Also, any thoughts on grade?


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 Posted 01/19/2017  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like 9 has a slight die chip and I'd guess MS65
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Having a hard time on the MM. Can't make out any separation from current images. Closer shot of date and MM together may help there.

Believe this year had a damaged MM punch seen raised in the lower portion of the S.

Sorry grading is not one of my expertize yet, so I'll defer on that one. That said looks in pretty good condition. Thanks, Doug.
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Not sure if this is a rpm due to the 9 having some die damage
The 9 has nothing to do with it being an RPM or not. The 9 looks like a die chip and I see no RPM.
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The mint mark is showing mint mark punch damage. You can see it on the coppercoins RPMs for that year on 002, 005, 007, 009, 010. It has nothing to do with the RPM. If is from the damaged punch.
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I agree that it is a punch damage.

Coin Experts - please correct me if I wrong as I am still earning, but for a second I thought it was the 1MM-005 S/S South, since the inside of the "S" looks like the one in the picture below, but I do not see any traces of "S" underneath the re-punched "S", which you would see if this was in fact a RPM.

Notice how the bottom arrow points to traces of the first punched "S".


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Appreciate the replies all! Sorry if I wasn't clear but I do know the 9 being damaged has nothing to do whether it's an rpm or not. I guess my question should have been is this punch damage or an rpm. Always appreciate the responses
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for a second I thought it was the 1MM-005 S/S South


Location differs a bit. Thanks, Doug.
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Ross Son: The area with the arrow is showing the RPM punching below the cross bar, Not that area is in a straight line. Because it is a RPM south it is possible to have been punched a second time with a damaged punch and slight showing a spread from a miss punch from a different punching event. They punch the mint mark punch until the desired depth is achieved. (So some mint marks are stronger or light because of not having the same depth of punching. What the RPM is showing is called a spread between punches. Here is a classic one for that year:
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Note the closeness of the punch to date. They felt it was to close. So they kept trying until it reached the lower area. So you can see how they punch the mint mark into the die sinking into the field. This leaves a raised area on the coins. But they have to tap it hard when they get to the right depth.

piercethegrimes: On the 9 on the date, that was cause by the date field crumbling away from the device. This is common to find on the 1950's wheat cents as they over used the dies past retirement. (squeezing every cent it could from them) When this happens thing go down hill fast for the dies. All the different Die Deterioration we note during that time keep coin collectors busy trying to define what happen during that time. LOL So it not the same issue as the mint mark punch issue. The die is first created, and then the mint mark is added to the 'D' and 'S' mints dies.
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01/20/2017 11:13 am
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