Can A Coin Holder Can Make A Coin Look Toned When It Is Not?

If you are talking about what I have circled in the image below, I agree with the seller. That looks to me like the reflection of "Elizabeth" and the coat of arms in the inside lid of the holder.

thanks guys!

I hate trying to photograph proof coins.
The mirror finishes will pick up everything.

again, thanks guys, yes it would be best to get another picture, we will see what happens, the thing is that I cannot pay that much or even close to it, it started out at $5,900, then $5,500, then $5,000 and now $4,900. I have seen this coin go for $5,900 at auction without the auction house's buyer's "premium" of 15%.

I offered him $3,600 like the slug and cheapee that I am, he would still be making around $1,500 over spot (the premium), so I am hoping for the best. I live in a 28 year old rv, I have very little except for my modest precious metals hoard and spend all my money on coins... no offense, but they are safer and cheaper than many women in the long run.

In any case, thanks again fellows... mike

Leaving these kind of coins in an old rv just doesn't sound very safe to me. And I certainly would not condone you spending your very last cent on this just my opinion,good luck.

If its at $4800 on ebay, he will be paying over $400 in fees. If you can find it outside of ebay you should be able to do better. I have no idea what this is worth, but if you don't value it much above metal value, then I suggest you just buy a more standard gold bullion and be done with it. This would be very hard to sell when it comes time.

to add, I bought this coin

http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/fine-....WIdzZmczWUk

it was the most amazing coin I had ever seen. However I could NEVER SHOW ANYONE. I could not freely display the coin, it sat in the locked case for 2 years. I was afraid almost everyday someone would steal it.

(These Kilo Coins do not fit into most Safety deposit boxes, they are too large)

I ended up selling it through a local auction house, and ended up loosing about $600 on the deal.

Just my thoughts.

wow Ace, that is an amazing huge coin, super design... and price! jeez! I don't know how long ago you bought it and hence the spot silver price at the time, but they had it "out of stock" (for only a 100 made, this is understandable), at a price of $7,536.96!, for a 5 kilo coin. did you buy it when silver was high, or did you just decide to buy it nevertheless, knowing that it was highly unlikely it would come up at any time... at any price. I have to admit I have never seen anything close to it... even the one I WAS looking at.

and I understand and agree with those who say that to sell such coins can be very difficult, due to their size and price, and that as insurance and liquidity (did I spell that right?), the 1 oz bullion coins are MUCH easier to sell. see if this makes any sense, or is my head filled with more rocks than I had thought...

At the start of my collecting, I did buy a large amount of common 1 oz bullion gold coins...kangeroos, philharmonics, eagles, etc. the problem was this... whenever I got into a financial bind, which was more often than I like to admit, it was so easy to go down to my local coin shop and sell them at basically the spot price was at the time. they even paid $10 over spot for the eagles.

that was the problem. my stack soon pretty much disappeared, because it seemed like I was having one financial "disaster" after another. next think I knew, within a few years, my stack was pretty much gone and I was broke again.

so I thought (which can and is a dangerous thing for me), why not buy coins that are difficult to sell? because they were either too big, or too expensive, or too exclusive, etc.

the deal is that my collection is not for my personal usage... it is for my disabled son as an inheritance after I am gone. what I did not want to happen was the thing that happened to me... they were just too easy to sell. the old saying "a fool and his money are soon separated". I am that fool. the way I figured it, if and when he needed money it would be difficult for him to sell the coins right away one by one (unless he went with HA or great collections (which, btw, is a great site to sell large or small amounts). I would highly discourage him to sell on these sites or ebay unless it was one coin at a time (HA has a $5,000 minimum, no minimum that I know for great collections. (I suggest you check them out if not familiar with them).

if this makes any sense to anyone besides me, great. if there is a flaw in my "logic", then I would listen to that too... my skin is pretty thick...

in any case, thanks to all for your insights, just about every answer I get usually informs me of something I was not aware of before and I am very grateful to all of you.

mike

that way, it would be more difficult for him to just "piss away" his inheritance in a relatively short time.