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Off Center In Two Directions About 90 Degrees Apart

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Found this 1973 that was punched slightly off center on both sides but thought it was a little strange that they are not the same direction or opposite . if you notice the thicker rim on the obverse is on the left but on the reverse it seems to be heavier towards the bottom is this a common thing?

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It looks like the collar was a little off center when the coin was struck. The thick part of the rims shows their relationship. It might have a small value above face value, but since no parts of the designs are missing, it would be very small.
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Yeah that's fairly commom, not an off-center. It would have to be missing some rim on both sides. 180 degrees I think.
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Worth keeping as an example even if it has no extra value.
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You must be using a cell phone to take pics. Please orientate pic properly. Now my neck hurts
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I will keep it thanks ! And again john1 sorry about the neck
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Just found a 1972 rim missing both sides 180 degrees away . I hope the pics are oriented correct this time if not let me know which direction they are rotated .

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Potbellypub, sounds like you're learning about how coins are made, minted. One fellow told me that the dies and collars become loose with use, making an awful clacking racket. The operator just takes a screwdriver and tightens up where needed, while the press is still running. That's why coins may seem slightly off center but in various directions. Just what adjustment became loose.

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thank you crazybo I'm trying to pick up all the information I can . And to add to this question if a coin is stamped on the obverse to where there is no rim on the right side of the coin on the obverse and the reverse is normal as in same size rim all the way around what is that called and what is the cause ?
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That is called MAD, misaligned die

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And that is common as well?
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its common enough where it doesn't add much value, if any.
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Thank you fuzzy317 I appreciate the answer on the value but I was just asking for the value of the knowledge of being able to spot and identify things . I appreciate you and all of the folks that reply for sharing your knowledge with me !
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Slightly off-centered collar and a MAD. No extra value
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While I have heard these sometimes referred to as slightly MAD, I think Your 72-D is not a MAD, it would have to be missing some of the rim completely. A MAD gains value when it's so misaligned, the devices start to fall off the edge.
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Thanks coincolecter2000and coinmasters I appreciate your replies! I am new and I ask questions more for knowledge than value but I do appreciate the knowledge of when something gains value ! I'm keeping a lot of these as references so I can begin to recognize and see things that are or aren't there . Again to all of you thanks for sharing knowledge !
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