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1892 1c, OBV 2 Or 4?

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1892-1c,--OBV-2-Or-4?

1892-1c,--OBV-2-Or-4?

1892-1c,--OBV-2-Or-4?

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 Obv 2
 Obv 4
 Can't tell

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I'm going with 4.
The upper jewel runs into the beads on a 4.
It doesn't on a 2 or a 3
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It's OBV4
Lips, eye, chin and bust line all indicate it is so.
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It's a 2 ... the neck truncation on a 2 just touches one bead. On a 4, it's almost 2 beads.
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i agree with okie obv2
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Quote:
It's a 2 ... the neck truncation on a 2 just touches one bead. On a 4, it's almost 2 beads.

Cheers Don

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Aw c'mon let's have some fun here, it's a poll.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
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That chin looks awfully round for a 2
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Paulsz: Even back in '82 when they first started using the Obv 2, you find somewhat rounded chins/throat The coin in this thread still has a cleft there where the defined wrinkle/inset usually is. I think that a combo of the photos and darkness doesn't allow us to see the pronounced cleft. An Obv 4 will show no inkling whatsoever of an indent being in the rounded chin. In my research for 1892's, the best way to tell a 2 from a 4 is the neck truncation where it meets the beads. That eliminates worn dies or hubs. If the OP would have shown us the N in Regina, then we'd know for sure.

I loaned nearly (or more than) 100 1892's to Rob Turner for his book on the 1890 & 92 book, so I have alot to refer to. I would have rather seen the whole coin obverse in one clear shot .. then it's easy.
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Experienced CCF members know that the whole coin must be seen. The many markers are not just the ones written about.

That's why we include the whole coin and then the added blow-ups...

There are other subtle markers on these coins that don't always make it into a book..That's why Rob's books include many large key photos of letters and much more..

..and..

Okie has often added other key points to look out for on the many other large cent varieties....
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There are two obv 2 dies, one with a broken lower N serif and the intact (scarcer) lower N serif. Can we see the D in DEI, should have a broken lower serif for an Obv 2. In the pic of the whole coin, looks like the serif in D is still there. But the lighting might be causing that
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Definitely Obv. 4

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I back my original answer up. Obv 4 :)
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