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1929 1c Torex Auction - High 9?

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Hi all,

Just browsing the upcoming Torex auction and fell upon this:




it's item #1023.

Do you guys think it is a high 9? I know there's a lot of discussion and arguments on this coin because there seems to be more "levels" than just a low and high 9 (some look like a mid-level 9). Just looking for opinions. I'm not interested in the coin itself, but it'd be nice to see what people think since I haven't seen a discussion on the 1929 varieties in about a year
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That one doesn't look like a high 9 to me. I think the highest 9 has a more rounded point on the tip of the 9, like the photo below.

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This one I would call a medium high 9 and has a more chisel shaped end to the 9.

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The auction coin is not a 'High 9'...
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That's what I was thinking too :/
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Is it even a medium 9? I'm having a hard time telling from the photo.
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I don't think the one in the auction is even a medium 9 CV. It looks low to me.
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Will it fool anyone... I guess we'll see
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I modified the title to this thread, so it would not be so misleading...
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SPP...I wonder if it's a 9/9 instead of a High 9.
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It is in a PCGS holder, and I would be cautious with the lighting and photography (the same "doubling" appears above the 1 as well)... I would not dare speculate on that, unless I could see it in hand or had the PCGS number to look it up (assuming it was PCGS Shield graded). I normally look at the lower tip of the 9 for the doubling.

http://goccf.com/t/92838
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It sure doesn't look like a high nine from the picture supplied.
Here's a close-up of the date if it helps.

Cheers, Bill

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Maybe a medium 9...but I agree with SPP...must see this coin in hand...

the dings on the 2 and 9 are not pretty either...
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Looks like a high 9 to me.
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Does anyone have ICCS pop report numbers on these?

I have an ms64 red high 9 and think it might be the highest graded.
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ICCS does not separate the 9's in their report.
They are all grouped under one category.
There are 25 at MS65 and 1 at MS66.
No way of knowing if any are High 9 or not.
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I know of at least four examples of ICCS MS-64 Red High 9's out there....
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