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Penny Melt In Canada Since 2012

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 Posted 02/04/2017  6:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bigchip22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
does any one know how many pennies have been melted down since the penny was last produce in 2012
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 Posted 02/04/2017  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CanadianNumismatist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
According to this website http://www.torontosun.com/2014/07/1...ll-out-there, 4 billion pennies have been melted down.
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 Posted 02/04/2017  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gidjit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i asked om main pick up bank a few months ago how many pennies they have sent back since the penny was discontinued and they told me none, I had bought them all!!
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According to this website http://www.torontosun.com/2014/07/1...ll-out-there, 4 billion pennies have been melted down.



What a great $40 million roll-hunt that would've been. Not.
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Man, what a hit to roll hunting!

What do you think this will mean for cent values in the future?

I assume they will rise somewhat as the population decreases.
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 Posted 02/05/2017  04:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, there's still more out there than there are collectors, so values shouldn't change at all.
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 Posted 02/05/2017  07:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justanothercoinaddict to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They could do the same thing here in the USA and the supply of cents available for commerce would still be more than adequate for the task, even if they were not eliminated outright. I don't know anyone who doesn't have at least a jar full of cents that they don't bother to spend. I put all mine back in circulation, even the coppers and common date wheaties. Those dang things are heavy and just not worth saving, in my opinion....
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 Posted 02/17/2017  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DataLore to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have several of the Canadian copper pennies in a jar somewhere around the house. Do you think the US will follow the same route as the Canadians did? Phase out the penny and us American too will have to round it up.
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Sooner or latter the US will follow suite, there really no need for a penny in todays economics
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I have several of the Canadian copper pennies in a jar somewhere around the house. Do you think the US will follow the same route as the Canadians did? Phase out the penny and us American too will have to round it up.


I am not sure where you get the "round up". Purchases in cash of say $1.21 and $1.22 round down to $1.20. Purchases in cash of $1.23 and $1.24 round up to $1.25 so it isn't always "round up", it averages to being neutral.

I too am curious as to if price of Canadian small cents has gone up or down in the last four years. Part of me wants to say slightly up because of the recall, but part of me wants to say slightly down because we don't see pennies so maybe interest will wane (out of sight out of mind?). Any theories on this?
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@punman I think it could go either way yet.
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punman, they will become interesting when "A penny for your thoughts" becomes a historic idiom in our books. Especially if I pull out my 1916 large-cent.
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I am just not sure about the Alloy Recovery Program the Royal Canadian Mint has instituted. I mean I can see where they'd wanted newer and uniform coinage in circulation but I think it's bad for collectors. Now it's like the mintage numbers mean nothing. Who really knows how many of such and such coins are out in the wild?
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Gresham's Law...... Bad money drives out the good. If there was no ARP, then others would be plucking the old unplated nickels and pennies out of circulation that were worth more than face. That's what happened to the silver coins before there was an ARP.

Granted there would be no risk to the older non-plated loonies and quarters because, while it is worthwhile for the ARP to withdraw the old coins and replace them with new ones, it is not worthwhile for anyone else.

I still see the ARP as a boon to the hobby as it clears a lot of the mundane coinage out of the market. Just look at the market for base metal pre decimal UK coinage......it is almost non-existent. So yes it is easy for collectors to assemble a set. But there is no joy in assembling the set because it is so easy to do.......
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Another benefit of the ARP is it enables greater volumes of new coin to enter into circulation to replace the old, a good thing to attract new collectors into the hobby. Canada with its RCM wouldn't want to be perceived as a third world country with dingy, old worn coin,

There's absolutely no chance that collectors are going to run short of coin due to the ARP. The hobby has been around for decades and a vast amount of collector coin is always pulled early in its release when it's in much better condition.
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