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Why Do Prices Seem Higher At Local Coins Stores?

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Hi all,
I do almost all of my purchasing on the Internet. I want to buy more from my LCS but the price tags are too much for me. Any ideas why?
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 Posted 02/09/2017  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imthealphaomega to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin shops have costs including overhead, taxes, water, gas, electricity, rent, employees payment, etc. All those bills add up quick. Normally dealers can cut a few bucks off a coin if you build a good relationship with them, without hurting their bottom line and their own financial well being. Repeat customers is never a bad thing to have.
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It actually amazes me that people can make a sustained living by running a brick and mortar coin shop in 2017. I found one shop across the street from where I do my grocery shopping and decided to check them out. They had an impressive selection of US classic silvers... for about 2-3x the going rate on ebay. Even the junk coins were overpriced... $5 each for common, worn IHCs, $3 each for dateless Buffalo nickels.

I like supporting local businesses, but not to the extent that I will overpay by $50!
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 Posted 02/09/2017  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakes8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed! I wonder if those prices could be negotiated down to what they sell for on ebay...

Maybe they buy their coins for really cheap as well.
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I owned a storefront business many years ago. It's a tough way to make a living. You pretty much have to eat, breath and live in it. It consumes all your time.

My LCS is an old family business. Been at the same location for over 60 years. It's a dusty old shop filled with decades of dusty old stuff!
But he seems do do well. There's always a steady stream of repeat customers coming and going. His prices are a bit higher than internet but that's to be expected. It's nice to get off the computer once and a while and just browse around there . .
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At my LCS (there are 3 in the region), I find that the prices are all quite fair and cheaper than on ebay. I do get discounts as a repeat customer, but not half price.

I do not think that there is any rule that says LCS prices are higher than ebay. In fact I generally find that ebay "buy it now" prices tend to exceed market value by a little to a lot. It depends on the shop and the local competition.

And I do agree that it is a tough way to make a living. many LCS rely on purchase of gold and silver bullion/ jewellery for more than half their income.
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I found You can negotiate with coin shops once they see you as a steady customer . But don't expect a huge discount , they still have that big nut known as Overhead .
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It also just seems to be luck of the draw in your LCS choices. Mine has some silver coins I can buy for spot. I think they let me look through it mostly though since I am a repeat and have built that relationship. But then again another LCS in my town just focuses more on the higher end stuff. Better coins, yes, but WAY more expensive and he doesn't even deal with junk silver at all.
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It's a greatly mixed bag. I see things on ebay that are considerably less than the local stores, but you have to wade through a lot of garbage to find them. The local dealers don't usually have culls, and seeing it up close means there are no light tricks to be done as with a picture (which has happened to me a few times now).

ebay also has terrible prices on some things, Japanese WWII occupation money for example. Most of the average circulated ones there are $2-3 each. The local dealer gave me a few boxes to go through and at the end I got a much greater variety than is on ebay now and at a much lower price -- $0.50 each for the circulated ones, $1 for a few of the CU ones.

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 Posted 02/09/2017  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakes8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone for all the input and advice! Greatly appreciated!
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You all know my thoughts. I prefer buying off the internet for reasons previously stated. I don't want to have to pay full retail for a few coins just to get a decent deal on the fourth. You end up losing in the long run. I understand why coins shops are closing and struggling. The owners of local shops in Kansas City seem so stressed out that they lost their passion for coins. You can see it in their eyes especially when you bring in your own coins and ask questions. It's a turn off but I understand their position. It not just coin shops suffering it's retail in general. If the internet trends continue with Amazon and other online shopping venues the commercial real estate market will collapse. Actually that outcome is probably inevitable.
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My lcs is cheaper than most online companies and certainly ebay. Although it is named "........ Rare Coins", it is more of a stackers shop. They buy and sell junk silver, gold and silver bullion.

As a general rule I believe that shops that specialize in numismatics are more likely to over charge than shops which specialize in bullion.
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I never buy from ebay. Too much bs and not to mention counterfeits.
Privacy and no paper trail is also important to me, so I will pay more and deal with my LCS.
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Pretty much has already been said. Coin stores have lots and lots of overhead. Usually many carry coin collecting supplies aside from just coins. Some also carry stamps and/or other collectables. As noted they have taxes, rent, gas, water, phone, electric bills to pay. Also, many have a family to support and all from the profit of the store.
The best place to buy a coin is usually at a coin show. Look up coin shows and see if there are any in your area. Usually at a coin show the dealers only have to pay to rent a table for one or more days. Much easier than an entire store.
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I like to see coins in hand before I purchase them. That being said a high percentage of local coin shops have totally unrealistic prices even after negotiation. I have to search hard to find coins available locally for reasonable prices and sometimes I think I'd be better served buying online.
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It often costs more to run a physical shop. The only way it's cheaper is probably with low value material. The cost of listing and/or photographing lower value stuff is impractical. In a B&M shop, you can throw that in a row box and someone might buy it for little to no work on your part.
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