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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I can only speak for myself. I know some, but there are others on here that could make me look silly. We all help each other. As you learn, you'll be able to help the newerbies. I don't think anymore pics are needed now. There will be more people in the morning. I have to go now. ltr
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New Member
 United States
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Thanks coin master! I went ahead and took a new pic, I used the negative filter on cam because it helps me to see impressions and other marks that I can't see with regular regular zoom  |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Thanks for the new pic. I see it in the first pics: there is a gradual flattening of the letters in "LIBERTY" as it approaches the indentation. That tells me that the strike was effected because of a pre-existing fault in the plachet (for example: a clip [absent metal]). It caused the metal to move differently because of the crescent void.
I'm certainly no expert so I expect there to be more replies concerning your first coin.
In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
Edited by spru
02/16/2017 03:03 am
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Moderator
 United States
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First coin, maybe a partial blanking error? The blank was not punched out properly? My first thought was PMD though and I am not 100% convinced either way. Coop.... John1  |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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An image of the reverse of the 2012 coin would help to determine if this is PMD or a damaged planchet issue. Your second coin is Zinc Rot  |
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New Member
United States
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Here is the reverse side pic per request. I hope this brings a lengthy discussion so that I can learn more about it. It may or may not be an actual error, I do not know, either ways it's a cool jar coin, I don't have more than a handful of oddities for cool jar. I'm having great fun learning  |
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United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It looks like PSD. Probably two coins placed between two blocks of wood and hit with a hammer. Note on the reverse, you can see where the outline is visible on the reverse. (below: 'ONE CENT') |
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United States
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PSD. John1 |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5964 Posts |
The last two pics show it a little better. I look at the letters TRUS, and they don't appear widened as one would expect to see if they were smashed. If anything, they appear weaker as would be the case of being struck into the void. The raised area on the back seems to be caused by the void, which in my opinion happened at the mint before the coin was struck, (even a Rockwell hardness test leaves a raised area on one side). Exactly what caused it I do not know, perhaps a collar error? The void is not nearly the width of a rim, and for as deep as it is one would expect to see some design transference as well. I think a possible way to settle this is to place another cent on top of it and see if it fits inside the void or matches it. I would very much like to see a picture of that.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The mark on the obverse is from the rim of another coin. Lay another coin on that area and you will see it matches the rim mark on your coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It will probably match it or fit inside it, as I just said. Post a picture please.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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A 3/4" OD pipe or tube will also fit. Thanks, Doug. Quote:
I look at the letters TRUS, and they don't appear widened as one would expect to see if they were smashed. If anything, they appear weaker as would be the case of being struck into the void. Check the known examples of incomplete punch. None show the devices struck deep into the void. Edited by Halo1st
02/16/2017 9:50 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Halo1st, I never said anything about incomplete punch. Read my reply just before Coop's last comment. And I'm not saying I couldn't be wrong. There is no one on here that can't be wrong. Paleteromanr can only expect my honest opinion. That's why I asked him to place another cent on his coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The coin was obviously damaged outside the Mint.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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