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April 2017 RCM Releases

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 Posted 03/24/2017  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Redzapsid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By traditional rolls, I meant the regular circulation designs
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 Posted 03/24/2017  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoneyPenney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a couple of coins not in the Canada Post catalog. Maybe they are late additions.
They are 2 Star Trek coins:

- 2 oz Star trek Five Captains Glow in the Dark coin - $194.95
- 1 oz Stra Trek Borg Coin - $112.95
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These are the new April releases, from Colonial Acres:

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 Posted 03/25/2017  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Electrum to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So...nearing month release number 4 for 2017 - and I don't see anything too extraordinary so far...no "must have" theme given this special 150th year.

The rolls are nice in terms of packaging but the designs within don't excite the eye at all either in rolls or other display packaging
...nothing remotely close to Colville's '67 courageous, original, now classic, designs.
The call for designs from any and all - resulted in far too simplistic sketches you would see from elementary grade schooler's art moment.
C'mon RCM - spend some coin and commission someone other that a dealer - to really do the year right...!!
Really hoping there is something more coming as we near July 1st.
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The call for designs from any and all - resulted in far too simplistic sketches you would see from elementary grade schooler's art moment.


I don't know if the problem is the simplistic part. In fact I would say that the Colville designs were simplistic and I love them.

There were too many themes and too many artists. That was the problem. There is no cohesiveness. Not the fault of the individual artists but of someone higher up who went this route.

There should have been one theme and one artist for the new 2017 circulation coins. I guess they did that with the Silver Big Coin Series for 2017 that most of us cannot afford. I guess it would have been too easy to use that same design on the circulation coins for 2017 so they went for a more complicated (and inferior) way.
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 Posted 03/25/2017  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Electrum to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes punman
Perhaps RCM desire to appeal to everybody and every theme all the time to max sales produced this disjointed set of 150 coins
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When you look at April's release - its the same monthly variety -something for everyone,
every age group, for both shallow and deep pocketed collector...similar approach taken for the 150 set - resulting in, to paraphrase punman's term...very disconnected set.
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 Posted 03/25/2017  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add headlessone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's why they needed a railroad. Not just 'cause the other guys had one. But that too. "You're a gonna get joined up," are, I believe, John A's exact words to the disconnected at the time.
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I don't know if the problem is the simplistic part. In fact I would say that the Colville designs were simplistic and I love them.

There were too many themes and too many artists. That was the problem. There is no cohesiveness. Not the fault of the individual artists but of someone higher up who went this route.


Rightly or wrongly, that was the chosen path for the 2017 circulation coins. The whole point was diversity...social engineering and politically motivated. It had little if anything to do with coin design.


The RCM basically said so in their press release posted here:
http://goccf.com/t/274347#274347

Sadly, I believe these coins will be as iconic as say the February or September 1999 quarters. No one will be very 'inspired' by them....unless there are mules.

As for the NCLT 150 coins; the Mint just seems to be scatter blasting every possible design to appeal to everyone (and maximize revenue). I don't think they, or collectors, really expect a 150th NCLT 'collection' to included every 150th designated coin...do they?
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Scatter blasting approach could be the real culprit
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Sadly, I believe these coins will be as iconic as say the February or September 1999 quarters. No one will be very 'inspired' by them....unless there are mules.


I don't know if there will be mules but I will refrain from making comments about another word for mules that might apply to some of this silly decision making in the 2017 coin celebrations!
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Scatter blasting approach could be the real culprit


Yup, agreed. I am totally flabbergasted by the packaging combinations being "blasted" out. Sigh.
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 Posted 03/26/2017  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add headlessone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The margins on "packaging" must be too high for them to resist? Admittedly speculating here, but if they do well enough purveying special wraps and bling etc, maybe they will throw the coin afficianados a bone, eventually. It would be great, wouldn't it, if they came up with something to encapsulate the commemorative impulse of us "shoppers" who want to feel like something other than mere consumers, for a change. "Change." Hehe.
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 Posted 03/26/2017  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JGG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought they were done with Star Trek? I guess they are trying to squeeze some juice out of the rinds too ...
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The 50c rolls always were priced double face value and it was ok - once per year get 1-2 overpriced rolls. Now all other rolls the same, but take out 200 dollars for set of rolls - not for me.

Star Wars, Star Trek, Star Craft, Star Gate... all were good on original media. And nothing realy interesting on the coins
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