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1879 P Morgan Dollar - Is This A Proof?

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I "upgraded" my Dansco with a very nice 63/64 and pulled this one out. I was thinking it was a slider when I put it in a long while ago but it had a booming luster and was a little confused by it. After trying a little VAMing on it, I noticed the "D" on dollar and was thinking it could be a proof. I took some pictures at an angle to show the reflectiveness (for lack of a better term). What do you all thinking as far as proof and grade? As always, thanks in advance!




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Based on the rims and dentils, especially in the obverse, I would unfortunately say no.
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Definitely not.
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Not a proof, but has some "proof-like"qualities. This is not unusual for Morgan dollars from that period. Coin looks AU53'ish to me.
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No, not a proof but still very nice!
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I see what you're looking at but I think they may be somewhat of an evil mimic of the proof dies.
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Nope. Just a nice business strike
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For the grade, I would think AU-55.
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No proof, AU-58
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AU-55 business strike that appears to have been proof-like when new.
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I agree that it is not a proof. Might just make AU-55.
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Not a Proof. Here is a Proof Morgan dollar.

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I agree with the sentiments above. It looks like a proof like AU. The freshly polished dies would often strike proof-like business strikes, hence the name. Business strike PL or DMPL coins usually have bag marks and scuffs from the mint, along with weaker strikes. Like the one billjones posted, proofs have very strong strikes and usually no bag marks. You can see in the proof posted how sharp and crisp the lettering is, because proof coins usually got two strikes. The letters are much more dull and rounded on the one you posted.

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